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Trevor:             Hi there. I’m Dr Trevor cates. Welcome to the spa doctor podcast. On today’s podcast, we’re talking about how to rise to the life of your dreams through your mindset, food and movement. My guest is Danette May, who is a world renowned motivational speaker, number one bestselling author of seven health and empowerment books, former celebrity fitness trainer, wife and mother. She is the founder of mindful health and the rise movement. You may have seen her on national TV shows such as access Hollywood, hallmark, home and family, and CBS. She has her own personal journey that she shares during this interview that is inspired her to help others through her three pillars of healing, healing foods, healing movement and healing mindset. With these simple philosophy, she transformed her life from having $47 to her name and operating as a single mother to owning a $20 million dollar business helping women around the world. Through her program, she has helped millions of people around the world step into radical self love and a healthier body and mind. On today’s podcast that shares her story, and inspirational tips on how you could have a life of your dreams with some simple yet powerful and radical changes and some of this is really going to help with your skin. So please enjoy this interview with Danette. Danette is so great to have you on my podcast. Welcome.

Danette:          Thank you. I’m excited to be here.

Trevor:             Yeah, absolutely. So you’ve got a really interesting story. You’ve got. You’re on a mission to help inspire women. So let’s start with your story and what got you on this path.

Danette:          Yeah. So before I can even share about the path that I’m on, it is important to share the story because I truly made my message out of my mess. And so, um, my journey, I always say that we all have this refiners moment and sometimes we have multiple, but we all will have one for sure. Where it’s really this unlayering of character and layering of who we are and what is our strength and what are we here for. And usually refiners moments like that. Refiner’s fire molding, glass molding diamonds. So it’s painful, it’s hard, it feels chaotic. It feels like, why am I here, what’s going on? And I was in my refiners moment during the loss of my son, so this was, you know, this has been now about seven, eight years. And then right after I lost my son, I found myself going to a really hard divorce.

Danette:          I found myself with $47 to my name, sleeping on my floor, 10 foil on my antenna for my kids to get the pbs station and you know, I see this story and that’s not really the hard thing to be sleeping on the floor. Even losing my son. The hard part about that whole messy part was my belief system around myself. It was the stories I was telling myself every single day that I’m not worthy. I’m not enough. I’m a financial ruin. I’m a terrible mom and I really found myself going. I’m at my rock bottom and I met my refiner’s fire. I don’t know if I called it a refiner’s fire then, but I was at my refiner’s fire and I was feeling it and I was feeling the heat and I knew that I literally had two choices. You can stay in that story, you can stay in that victim hood, you can stay in just that awfulness that just bombarding you on a moment to moment basis or I could choose to listen to what these other mentors, inspiring people that I was finding on Youtube, say about mindset, say about people’s lives and I chose the latter and I started really, really working on my mindset.

Danette:          I started really working on the foods I was putting in my body, the type of way I moved my body and I was really refocusing on really taking on anything that was healing and I not only did I find that my spirit was rising, you know, my, I looked younger, I looked, my body was changing, but really my belief system was changing and now I operate this $20,000,000 business motivating, inspiring women around the world on these three pillars. And that to me is just in five years to go from that to that to me is the secret sauce is really those three pillars.

Trevor:        Yeah, that’s amazing. And it’s true that if we, if we can really embrace more of that positive and our life, it’s not always easy to do that though when you’re in that dark place. And now it’s, it’s we, we know we’re supposed to eat healthy and we know we’re supposed to think positive thoughts. But when we’re in that place of suffering, it’s hard to see that. Right? So yeah, I mean, what, what do you think, you know, really helps people shift from that dark place to finding help.

Danette:          Yeah. This is really. My mission is helping people in that journey, right? This is the mission of the rise, but I’m doing all about my backend programs, which is this community program with all the foods and the movement and the mindset piece. Everybody’s waiting to feel like it. Everyone’s believes that there’s this magic formula called motivation that some people have or they’re inspired and somebody, some people have it and I just don’t. And we’re all waiting for this. This like inspiration or motivation to hit. And that’s the big lie. There is no such thing as this is going to hit you and then you’re going to feel like it. You actually have to create it and so when you actually feel like, nope, not doing it, the only formula there is to just do it, especially when you don’t feel like it because that is your invitation that that is when you need to start doing it. Especially. So most people are like, oh, I don’t feel like meditating or I don’t feel like saying an affirmation or I don’t feel like moving my body. That’s your invitation that that’s what you need to do because when you don’t want to do it is you. That means you really need it. You really need it.

Trevor:        Yeah, and I guess it’s just a matter of making that step and just trying to make it just doing it and I can actually. I don’t know any other way to describe it. Right? It’s just you just have to.

Danette:          That’s the honest truth. Right, and I think so many people are led to believe that some people just have more motivation. You Dr. Katz just must have that motivation gene to create a business, to create a podcast to, you know, take care of your skin, to take care of your body, and the truth is no, like you’re willing to get into it because you’re going to create it, not because you’re waiting for anything or anyone. So you are your biggest rescue, I have no doubt.

Trevor:        Right? Right. Um, you know, I, it, it’s hard sometimes, right? To do that. It’s not like, you know, you just get spoon fed stuff, you know, you have to know, you have to make it work. So, you know, there’s, there are certain words that we choose, um, right, that, that can make a big difference, right?

Danette:          Absolutely. Words are powerful and you don’t have to take my word for it. There’s tons of scientific research out on the power of words, and this is one of the simplest things we can do is the words we speak and it does change our physical appearance. It changes our financial outcome, it changes our relationships in it is all boils down to the language that we’re speaking to ourselves, whether out loud that we’re speaking to other people or internally. Now this has been a scientific study that they’ve done on water. They’d done, I did this. You can do this today. You take grains of rice. You put them in three different jars, so this is what I did with my children. Anyone can do this so that you can believe for yourself the power of words and intention and thoughts. So you take three separate jars.

Danette:          You fill them up with some white rice like halfway, and then you label one of the jars positive, one of the jars, negative and one of the jars. Ignore you, put them in the same spot in your home, same air condition, same lighting, whatever that is, put them there, and then that positive jar, you’re going to say, oh, I love you. You’re amazing. You’re beautiful, you’re smart, you’re talented, you’re going places. The negative one, you’re like, you’re dumb. You’re an idiot. I don’t like you like and it’s hard to do that and my kids would do this and I did this, and then the one that you ignore, you ignore. Literally in two weeks you will find that the one that you ignore starts to grow some mold. The one that you say mean things. It’s already started. It’s moldy, it’s getting moldy. You’re seeing it very visually and the one you’re positive, it’s totally fine.

Danette:          Now, this is the same with our cellular structure. We’re made up of 70 percent of water. There’s been studies with water on this and how the molecules change within water and so something that I do is every single day this is a non negotiable. I’m always saying loving words to myself. I tell you what’s the beauty secret of all beauty secrets because I will tell myself I’m beautiful. I’m beautiful skin. I used to deal with acne and I would do this to my face and it’s changed my life. It’s changed everything and it’s really something that anyone can take a hold of and I do it when I especially don’t want to do it because that’s when I actually really need it.

Trevor:        Some people would say that that is kind of forcing something that’s not real, like that’s not authentic. Why would you risk? What would your response be to something like that?

Danette:          Of course, it doesn’t feel real and of course it doesn’t feel authentic because your, your subconscious mind hasn’t lined up with your conscious, but the truth is, let me ask you, do you believe that every human is important? Like if you were to go to your best friend or your child, would you? Do you believe their life is important and it’s time that we and most people say yes, absolutely. Like I would never talk like that to my best friend or my child or to someone that I loved to read when my pets, but we have this hard time recognizing that that is our mirror, that that is who we are and so the truth of your soul, the truth of all of our souls is that we are beautiful, that we are powerful beyond measure, that we have genius DNA running through our veins, that we are worthy, that we are enough, and what’s the biggest lie is that you’re not. What’s the biggest lie is that you’re not going to amount to something or that you don’t have talent or that you don’t have beauty and grace inside of you. That is the lie.

Trevor:        Yeah, and what about the words of other people around you? What you surround yourself with them in there as the self talk, which is so important, but what about other people around you?

Danette:          Yeah. I mentioned this in my book as well because who can stand in front of the mirror and say all the amazing loving affirmations you want, but if your environment is not a reflection of what you deserve and what I mean by that, if you’re hanging out with people that aren’t really negative or even abusive to you. If you ever have a friend or a spouse or someone that’s telling you you’re stupid or you’re ugly or you’re fat, it is time to sever those cords immediately. Let me tell you. If they’re saying this to you, it’s mostly a reflection of how they feel inside themselves out. Nothing to do with you. Anything we truly say to others is our own reflection, and so that is your job to be your best friend, to be your biggest rescue, and to save this environment no longer works in Alliance for me, and there are tools for this and I’ve had in my book. I talk about doing this with my own family members, which is tends to be the hardest because we have this deep loyalty cord and that’s okay. You owe them love, but you owe yourself love. You have to be your biggest rescue to say enough because then as soon as you give yourself permission to do that, you give them permission to do that as well.

Trevor:        Yeah. And maybe part that is, is setting boundaries and what’s okay and, and, and changing patterns because in your environment people may have gotten used to saying certain words or being, you know, hurtful, but other people that say things and they’re like, oh, you know, okay, I’m just kidding. I’m just kidding. But those, those kidding, kidding. Whereas I’m putting air quotes here, uh, can be quite damaging even if you know it’s, it’s made in jest, right?

Danette:          Yes. Absolutely kidding. That’s an interesting one. Right? That’s an interesting one because we all know the currency of what’s truly kitting and what’s just as a way to be like passive aggressive. So I’m just watch that tune into that. How does this person make you feel? How does this environment make you feel? And if it’s not like super high vibing, you can remove yourself. Yeah,

Trevor:        yeah, absolutely. Um, and, and so how often do you think people need to do this and, and do you suggest it verbally written? What are the journaling? What are the things that you think are most effective with what those positive words? Yeah.

Danette:          Yeah, with affirmation. So here’s what I like to speak to. I don’t necessarily believe there’s a one formula fits all, but here’s what I did. I was willing to get radical. I needed to get radical if I wanted to change my world. Like I literally went from $47 to a $20,000,000 company in five years by being radical. So I don’t really like to skirt around the idea of just dancing with this. Like I say, you full on, get in there and rock out. So I sat down and wrote down probably a page and a half of I am affirmations and it felt like the biggest lie and I wrote them all down first and then I made a non negotiable commitment to myself. It wasn’t a should, it was a must that if I ever had like a negative thought, like something where I was just like questioning my financial success or questioning me being a mother or my beauty or my worth that I would read it and I would read it out loud.

Danette:          So this in the early days was like sometimes every 15 minutes. That’s how radical I was willing to be and so I would sit and read it like I still have the paper. It has been folded up a million times and been used a million times and now I’ve gradually moved that art. So that’s where I started and it felt like a lie. It felt uncomfortable. Sometimes I would cry. Sometimes I felt like I was just going through the motions, but I was committed to it and then I moved it up to eye gazing in the mirror. There’s profound growth that comes from this. If you’re willing to step belly to belly in front of that mirror and just start saying the truth and look deeply in your eyes, and so I don’t actually do belly. I work in front of the mirror as much anymore, but I will do every day. I just walk out in nature and obviously these affirmations are like ingrained in me and I just repeat them. I just repeat them, repeat them in the morning, if I’m in front of the mirror, brushing my teeth, I’m of saying in my head, it doesn’t matter if you say it out loud or in your head, it’s just as long as you’re repeating them.

Trevor:        I love that. And I, um, I oftentimes tell people that using the mirror is a great way to get information about your health with your skin. So looking at your skin is your magic mirror that gives you information. So I would encourage my followers to, while you’re doing that, spend a little time giving yourself a little love to a little affirmation. So yeah.

Danette:          Yeah. So you just speak to your skin.

Trevor:        Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean you will, you look at your skin and it gives you information. So instead of covering up and ignoring it, we pay attention to it. Right? So then people can take it as a step further. I mean, I tell them that when they’re applying my skincare products now give yourself a little love and and so I love it. Adding in your component to just look at yourself and

Danette:          to your face into your skin. I love that because I think will we all know the skin is your largest organ, right, and it’s always speaking. Your body is always speaking to you or what that subconscious belief is, what’s going on? My skin does that. It absolutely speaks to me. It always just telling me what’s going on in my inner dialogue in my inner world and so it’s been fascinating for me to do that journey of really talking to my skin, talking seriously, like telling it. I will tell it that you can be beautiful because I realized I had subconscious belief that I was too afraid to be pretty. I was too afraid to like look like I don’t know where that came from and that sounds so weird because I always grew up. I grew up with brothers. I don’t really know where that came from, but I just knew that there was some subconscious belief that was trying to not be too much, so I would grow at me like just to cut my, have some blast. This was like within the last couple of years, um, one thing started to really grow and so, um, now I’d been like, you can be pretty. It’s okay.

Danette:          And it’s really helped my acne a lot.

Trevor:        Well that’s great. That’s great. So in addition to positive words and affirmations, I know you also talk about other aspects of lifestyle, so food and exercise and so how, how are you include that in what you recommend for people as well as your own life? It sounds like what you do in your life is what you’re modeling for other people. So of course it’s, you know, it sounds very connected.

Danette:          Yeah, absolutely. Well, I do want to say before I get in these two other modalities, the first modality which we just covered was our mindset piece, and I have to tell you that I believe it’s the most powerful piece in anyone’s transformation when it comes to your health. Like I said, your relationships, your finances, and it’s absolutely free, right? It’s absolutely free. I believe that’s the number one thing we should be doing. I’m healing foods and healing movement, or a similar pillar like I think of a table with three legs. Um, really important to those other pillars. So for me, healing foods, I’m not a belief like I don’t believe in Paleo or Vegan or vegetarian or I’m none of those and all of it. At the same time, I truly believe that what’s coming up for me, for, for humanity is truly eating things that are living, that are conscious.

Danette:          So plants that haven’t been heavily sprayed, really looking at that, making sure I’m getting more Greens than I’m getting anything else in my body. Because if you look at Greens, they’re getting sunlight during the soil. I want that inside myself. So if it’s something that I don’t really want that energy out because if you think of a salad that’s really beautiful on or even a green drink versus like a croissant, like I love a croissant, but if I eat it it’s kind of dead. Like there’s nothing will really living in that croissant. I want things living inside of me so that I can optimize my energy where I’m going, my focus and I don’t look at calories, I look at really like is this going to serve my spirit? Is this going to actually give me more energy to do what I’ve been asked to do in this lifetime?

Danette:          So that takes away a lot of the drama. I don’t count calories, I don’t weigh things. It’s just really about healing foods in the moment. So that’s kind of an overall generic one and I have some basic guidelines that I follow that I’m happy to share if you want to get into it. And when it comes to movement, the same thing. Like we get so bought up, there has to be crossfit or yoga or polities or you know, running. And the truth is just move, like move, whatever makes you feel good. It might be dancing, it might be a hike, it might be biking, I have no idea. But you have to move to tap into the shadows to tap into your soul. And when you move it awakens all of that. It’s like this direct conduit to like your soul and to feeling good instantly. So I’m, I’m, I’m a big believer in all those three.

Trevor:        Absolutely. And I definitely see how they all play in together where it, you know, it’s, I think a lot of people guilt themselves into, oh, I should or shouldn’t be eating this food or I, I should be going with my friends too, that, you know, really intense workout that makes me feel horrible. Um, and you know, people, you know, it becomes the mindset piece, right? It all ties in together. So I love what you said about movement and do what you love and kind of the same thing with food is nourish your body with foods that, um, that you know are going to feed your spirit. And then I also think of not beating yourself up, don’t give guilt trip yourself because if you want to have that croissant and maybe and you know you can eat. I mean there’s, you know, of course allergies and that sort of thing. But as long as you will have an allergy, you know, if you were to eat that and feel really, really bad and beat yourself up about it, then it’s definitely going to have problems with it. Whereas you’re like, Hey, I’m just going to have this tree, you know, I know I’m not allergic to the things in here. And it was probably not the best food for me. But Hey, you know, it’s not the end of the world. Right.

Danette:          Actually there’s a lot of scientific evidence on that power and I’ve been doing. Obviously there’s other studies on it, but I’ve taken my own internal group of saying and giving them like chocolate cake croissants and then someone who’s eating like Greens and what you would deem as like healthy food. Right into two different categories. And then we had like just a regular like plateau placebo group and the person that was eating chocolate cake croissants every now and again, maybe some sandwiches, just kinda like what normal day we’re always been like, this food’s amazing. The food is totally going through my body. It’s healing it. There’s no guilt associated. And the people that were eating really healthy would be like, oh, I feel like I maybe too much salad. Or like they would start to say the words in their mind they were charged to do this even whether they believed or not, just saying that the actual words.

Danette:          And we found that the people that were eating like chocolate and croissants were actually losing weight because of the power of their minds and it wasn’t effecting them. So it’s really more that power of the mind that’s actually affecting how the food is being absorbed in your system. It’s just the same as that molecule test when they were like, that’s why I speak to my water every single day. I speak to my foods. The guilt factor is so real. So if you are going to occasionally have some sugary or flowery or food that’s actually not, it doesn’t really processes easy normally in the system, just say loving words to it because the body is super intelligent and it will actually digest it and remove excess toxins that no longer need to reside through the power of your words. Yeah.

Trevor:        Yeah. I, I definitely believe that. And of course what you’re talking about, this is not people that were eating chocolate cake all day long. They were eating a healthy diet and had an occasional indulgence too. Yeah.

Danette:          Not Chocolate cake for breakfast, lunch and dinner and then a sensible dinner.

Trevor:        It’s about moderation and having, having things, you know, not um, because I think if we create so much shame around, it’s easy to create shame around food and it’s sort of perpetuated in our society if this is the way you should eat or should exercise and, and if you work out harder, it’s better. And if you, um, you know, it, all these different diets too. And it’s, I think it’s, um, there’s a, is there a course as a physician and doing the research on different foods and allergies and all kinds of things. Of course there’s a lot of science behind that and which foods really nourish your body and provide the nutrients you need and people have allergies, how that can trigger inflammatory processes. But there’s also this, there is that power of, uh, of the mindset and how you look at foods. I think it’s so important. And I, and I, you know, I don’t usually tell people this, but when I sit down with my kids at dinner, um, we bless our food before we eat it and we think, you know, everything that went into providing it for us and I, and I don’t know what exactly that’s doing, but it seems like a good thing to do, do you know, is that something

Danette:          say is truly changing. The molecular structure of the food food is made up of water. So blessing it with positive vibrations actually does change the molecular structure of that food that’s going inside your body.

Trevor:        Oh, that. And then recently somebody told my 11 year old daughter that we should have moon water and so, so we have put out water in big jugs and put like for the full moon and you know, and um, and then also for summer solstice, that was another one, she was like, let’s put up water for summer solstice. So we have all this water is 11 year old. So cute. Um, and so we’ve been trying that. We’ve been drinking moon water in summer solstice water.

Danette:          I imagine it’s working.

Trevor:        Yeah. So giving it lots of loving attention. So I’ll report back when exactly how this is working for us. But um, you know, I think that um, yeah, I think that this all ties together. I think a lot of time we separate out food and fitness and I’m from you intentions and mindset. So I think it’s great that you pull all this together. I certainly do that in my book too. So I love that you have this message and you’re, and you’re working to get this message out to more people, right?

Danette:          Yeah, absolutely. Well, we definitely have an online community where the message gets out and it’s powerful. It’s powerful to have the tools to feel better instantly. So, um, yes, absolutely.

Trevor:        So what are, tell us, can you share some of the stories from some from of your followers of you, if can you have any success stories of people that I would love to hear that.

Danette:          Yeah. We have so many success stories. I could, I don’t even know where to begin because we have different programs. We have like a 30 day new challenges. She was really about like learning that you can eat up to six times a day and not deprive yourself. Most people on our programs, seriously sad, never eaten this much in my life and I am releasing a lot more and I feel better. I think the ones that get me the most jazzed are people that write in and go, I’ve had this Eczema, the skin disorder my whole life. I’d been on steroids creams and all of a sudden it’s cleared up and in. The reason these things are cleared up is because the foods are balancing of the hormones. And when you combine it, because all of our programs are combined with affirmations, I believe the mind needs to get on as your greatest allies.

Danette:          So when you start to step into more self love, there’s a lot of emotion that’s going on in our system that relays out through the skin or relays out through dysfunction in the body. The body is so radically intelligent that when we start to start loving ourselves and healing past wounds, you will find that a lot of the imbalances you’re experiencing, your body become healed as well. So those get me excited. Obviously people lose a lot of weight, they look different, their faces look dramatically different, even in seven days they’ll do before and afters of their face. But some that also gets me excited. The people that I’ve been in fertile and then, and then it’s not even a program to help people get pregnant. People will be like, oh my gosh, I’ve been doing all these different and Veatch Rosen and I’m getting, I got pregnant and we get this one a lot.

Danette:          Um, and it’s, once again, it’s just because there’s a lot of hidden emotions stopping you possibly from having getting pregnant. We don’t really do a lot of talking about that. We all want everything to be so scientific, but the mind is so, so powerful in what you’re stopping on, what you’re allowing in. And then also the balance of the hormones that body going, oh, you’re giving to me like I can like relax and get into my zone now, right into my intelligence now. So, um, those ones give me the most excited, you know, the weight loss is always going to happen. But um, when it’s a little above and beyond and it’s really affecting their families and their lives and their dreams, that’s gets me very excited.

Trevor:        Right? And it seems to be this epidemic of depression and suicidal ideation, people committing suicide and, and I know that we are so connected and in our society and so things like this I think are so important because when, when each of us started this movement, right? This rise, as you call it, it has this collective ability to help all of us, right?

Danette:          Absolutely. We’re all connected. You hear the stories of the bees. Bees communicate thousands and thousands of miles away to other bees without being next to him. Same with human connection. We’re constantly communicating with people obviously in our sphere of influence, but even like every single woman is in our DNA. So what we do and the love we feel for ourselves and how we take care of ourselves gives another woman permission. You may never even meet eye to eye on this lifetime, but you are giving her permission energetically. Absolutely.

Trevor:        And I. So I think it bothers him some. I think people feel like, oh, this I’m being selfish this and I don’t want to, you know, I’ve got all these other people are going to take care of or that I’m concerned about or. But if I think a lot of stuff we work on ourselves, that’s where we have the most influence.

Danette:          Absolutely. I actually believe our number one job in this lifetime, I did a big talk on it at an event, is to love ourselves. A lot of us are looking for our passions are we think that we’re supposed to have this passion or this mission, and I ask people, I’m like, deep, greatest thing you can do for humanity more than global warming more than anything else is to work on your self love. Because if we had everybody in true self love, right, we would truly change the trajectory of the planet because that is what is causing this disruption. The separation is this lack of self love in each individual.

Trevor:        Yeah. That’s so true. So true. And I hope everybody’s listening carefully to this. And I’m doing. I’m doing what we can to create more of that self love and self care. I think it’s more important now than ever. I. And I know again, I, I just see so much depression and sadness and pain and suffering right now and so I think it’s important. Uh, and I, you have a book coming out and you also have an event. You do live events too, right?

Danette:          Yeah. We have a 3000 women live event in Denver, Colorado at the convention center this October and it’s called the rise. And it wasn’t something that I wanted to do. I’ll be really honest. I, um, I never had it on my vision board. It wasn’t something that I was like, oh, this is, we’re going to plan for this and do. I literally was hiking one day and that’s where I get most of my inspiration. And I was like, I’m supposed to do this. And I was like, ah, kind of wrestling with it, like I don’t really want to do it. And I have learned now to listen. So I went into my team and you know, it’s been a year up from when I made the declaration to the team and now, well it’s probably been less than a year. So in October we will have this. It’s almost already sold out.

Danette:          We’ve, it is going to be such an incredible event because here’s what I do know, is that there’s a lot of online programs and that is great, but there is power and women coming together and we know that women are coming together more than ever. Right now. They’re marching. There’s this currency of maybe anger or feeling separated than. And that’s all well and great, but can we, if we feel the call come together in a conversation of celebration in a conversation of let’s talk about the next level, we are untapped resources for humanity. We’re not stepping into our self love can we remember the DNA coding that lives in us, our genius and come together in our vulnerability and our love and step on top of our stories and unite and link arms to really make an impact in the world. And so that is what the rise event is because I know when we come together on a soul level, it’s going to be unstoppable. And so I know this is the first gathering, there will be more and they’ll be in different stadiums around the world. But this one’s the first of the rise movement.

Trevor:        Wow, that’s fantastic. I Know Kathy Smith told me about it and Kathy’s westbound on my podcasts and um, and so she was, she was telling me about it. I think, you know, I’d love to come. I’m going to see if I can make that happen and from some of my girlfriends. So I think it, I think it sounds like an amazing event and then your book is coming out right afterwards, is that right?

Danette:          Yeah, so the book is called the rise as well, but this is like a little bit of the messy memoir of my life. I share stories that I’ve never shared in there and then literally I’m only sharing because my goal in life is if I can, I can only help other people as much as I’m willing to help myself. Right? And so I am being so radically vulnerable in this book and really giving you the insights of on my rise, what did I do, what did I go through and I share it all in hopes that other people find their story and my story and get more courageous in sharing their vulnerability, more courageous and owning their stories and so that we can truly step into more self love and connect us were meant to connect as women right now.

Trevor:             Well today, thank you so much for coming on my podcast and thank you for everything that you’re doing, all the hard work that you’re doing. Appreciate, appreciate everything you’re doing to, um, help help women and empower us and help us accept more of that self love and self care.

Danette:          Yeah. Thank you so much. I loved being on here.

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