An inside out approach, using Homeopathy With Dr. Amy Bader

An inside out approach, using Homeopathy

An inside out approach, using Homeopathy With Dr. Amy Bader

Dr. Trevor Cates: Welcome to The Spa Dr. podcast. I am Dr. Trevor Cates. Today we are talking about an inside out approach to skin challenges using homeopathy. My guest is Dr. Amy Bader who is a Naturopathic Doctor, teacher, speaker, writer and entrepreneur. Dr Bader graduated from the National University of Natural Medicine. The same school I went to the same class, the class of 2000 with me. She is an adjunct clinical faculty member there. She also has private practices in both Northern California and Portland, Oregon and is passionate about treating patients with chronic diseases using clinical nutrition, botanical medicine, biotherapeutic drainage, which she is going to explain what that is and homeopathy, and she also explains more about that. Dr Bader is regularly featured in newspapers, radio, and magazines as an expert and was founding co-director of the National University of Natural Medicines integrative skincare clinic. She was also recently featured on the cover of Her Life magazine, with the story on the power of resilience and she is also contributing columnist for the Naturopath and online national health resource. Dr. Bader’s desire for continual personal fulfillment and sharing the tried and true fundamentals of her practice more broadly led her to the creation of SkinTe, the first ever collagen sparkling tea. As cofounder of SkinTe, Dr. Bader’s love of natural medicine is the foundation of the brand’s promise. To unleash health and beauty from the inside out every day. As you could see, her message really resonates with The Spa Dr. message. In today’s interview we talk about how to use homeopathy and drainage for skin and other health challenges. She talks about how to use it for both chronic problems as well as acute issues. And at the end of the interview even share some specific homeopathic remedies that she has in her own personal first aid kit and Dr. Bader shares her personal struggles with skin and what led her to become a Naturopathic physician and later cofounder of SkinTe. So please enjoy this interview with Dr. Amy Bader.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Amy, welcome. It is so great to have you on The Spa Dr. Podcast.
Dr. Amy Bader: Thank you so much. I am thrilled to be here.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yes, so we went to Naturopathic medical school together and stayed in touch over the years. I Can not believe it has been 20 years. You work a lot with skin and so I want to have you on the podcast to let people hear your take on how you approach skin. Because there are some slight differences in the way that you approach skin than I do.
Dr. Amy Bader: Yes, I do think I have a unique skill set that plays really well with other skill sets. So first let me backup. Yes, it has been two decades. Can you believe it? And I think what drew me originally to Naturopathic medicine school is kind of like your story Trevor. I was having health problems and health problems in my family. I struggled with my skin as well. I had acne and rosacea and Perioral dermatitis, later on. I had allergies, probably had some IBS, all of those things in my first half of my life kind of drew me into Naturopathic medicine wanting to fix myself and maybe family members and all of you in the second half of my life. And so I was really drawn, I think for very deep personal reasons. One of the main draws was actually my mom has had leukemia for 35, 40 years. And when she was diagnosed, there were no treatments for leukemia and her oncologist literally said, go do whatever. Go do Chinese medicine, whatever, we have no answer for you at this point. And so she did. She went to holistic doctors and guess what, 40 years later or whatever, she’s outlived her leukemia diagnosis and has never had to do any conventional medicine. And so I actually really saw holistic medicine work profoundly. It is just very personal. And that is where we landed together in med school, is that path with my own health, my mom’s health, and just wanting to do something really wonderful with my life, and use all my skill sets.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yeah. I know we talk about how a lot of times our own journey draws people in. We want to help them because they see that we have overcome these things.
Dr. Amy Bader: Yes, I think the best doctors have had their own challenges, right? They can empathize with their patients. And I think people feel safe telling their stories to doctors like us who have had those challenges and we are very open about it. I think it’s a wonderful thing. And then as you know, Trevor, when I landed in med school, it was almost like I had a second call once I got there. Because I was really drawn to these modalities within the naturopathic world of homeopathy and biotherapeutic drainage, that kind of became my special skill set. And that is where I come into play with people with chronic health conditions, chronic dermatological conditions, with that skill set to add to what is probably already going on in terms of other things they are doing to really try and get that case to tip over the edge and get people really solid long lasting results that want.
Dr. Trevor Cates: So tell everybody what exactly, I mean we have talked about homeopathy on the podcast before a bit. We had Dr. Mitch Fleisher, he came on a while back about homeopathy but give people a kind of refresher on that as well as we have never talked about drainage before on The Spa Dr. Podcast.
Dr. Amy Bader: So first with homeopathy, a nice refresher. Homeopathy was developed in Europe a couple hundred years ago. And it’s really where we take substances in nature and we dilute them way down so that there’s an imprint in this medicine, even though the physical parts of that plant or mineral, whatever it might be, have diluted kind of out of solution. That memory of that substance or whatever is still in that solution. So when we take that homeopathic medicine, it tells our body, hey, you need to react to something, even though that medicine at that point is so incredibly safe. I love to use arnica as an example of this. Arnica is homeopathic. Most people have seen it in the health food store. A lot of people have at home in their cabinets and we love it for bruises and bumps and sprained ankles and dental extractions and surgeries. Because we all know it helps us heal and heal bruising really, really well. But what a lot of people don’t realize is arnica, the actual plant, if you ate that plant, it’s toxic. It would actually cause you to have internal bleeding. But when you dilute that down, you turn it into a very safe homeopathic version of that, the body gets a signal, hey, something’s coming in here that might make me bleed. And so it organizes this healing around that particular issue. And so if you have an injury, it just really speeds up the healing and makes it more efficient and more organized.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yeah, that is true. I think a lot of people have heard of arnica. Some people have just used the topical arnica, but there is also oral. What you are talking about is more of the oral arnica than the topical. Although I think some of the topicals are also homeopathic. And I think that is a perfect example. And it of course can be used for all kinds of issues, such as skin issues as well as many health problems, both acute and chronic. Right?
Dr. Amy Bader: You can use it for a bump or a bruise, but you can also use remedies for very terrible diseases. Horrible depression, skin problems. And so really it’s about matching the pattern that the body is expressing with the right homeopathic medicine or medicines in order to get the shift in the body’s pattern that we want to see. And when that happens, a lot of the things you might be doing like eating right or probiotics or even herbs or medications, they tend to work better once the body kind of realizes it shouldn’t be stressing in certain ways.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yeah, absolutely. So how do you use it in your practice and how does that differ from drainage?
Dr. Amy Bader: So with the homeopathics I will say I do practice a little differently. I have a lot of training from some French medical doctors that I have done in addition to naturopathic med school. And they tend to use collections or remedies together. For instance, they might pair a few remedies. They are a little more geared toward how a body is presenting its symptoms, while pulling in a higher potency remedy that’s going to look at someone’s deeper constitution, their mood, how they really react to stress on a deep level, how they behaved as children. And so we tend to put a recipe together. That way, it is really personalized to how that patient was presenting on every level. And then we will often pair it with this biotherapeutic drainage, which is a little different, but it’s homeopathic and you know, a lot of people say drainage. I tend to say drainage, it is not to be snooty, it’s just because people hear drainage. and tend to think tubing and we are physicians and it is not like that. It’s very, very easy to take those wrong. But homeopathic drainage or biotherapeutic drainage, is where you take these homeopathics and you put them together in a way that it enhances the elimination systems of the body. So it’s like on every level it’s helping clear the muck out and when you start getting the body to clean itself out better, everything from the toxins that might come in through the environment or food to the toxins that are just created in the body as it does its metabolic thing, when those things are leaving the body more efficiently and receptor sites are opening up and enzymes aren’t as bogged down, everything just works better. So, one thing I can tell you about homeopathy that I just adore, is it just makes everything else you do work better. Even if you are on medication, it will make it work better because the system is just less stressed and the system is working more efficiently and that way, you know, a lot of times patients come in, they are on medications, but right out of the gate we are lowering doses and sometimes they have to come off them because now they’re overmedicated they don’t need them anymore. So it is kind of a nice thing to see. And I do think it elicits more positive changes that are longer lasting, because you are retraining the body how to behave.
Dr. Trevor Cates: So how do you go about selecting the right remedy for a patient?
Dr. Amy Bader: It is very individualized in terms of how you would select individual homeopathic remedies that’s based on very distinct symptoms. For example, if somebody has eczema in and it’s presenting with dryness in very specific areas of the body and it responds better to this versus that, that helps us narrow those remedies down. But when it comes to the biotherapeutic drainage, and some of those other remedies, we look at what we call the miasm of the body. Now, miasm is a really fancy term for how the body behaves when it encounters a toxin or stressor. We tend to fit into these patterns as people. There are four main miasms and we almost always fit into one or two of those categories. And that tells me how your body is going to behave when I start treating it. For example, if you are a certain miasm, that eliminates extremely poorly. If I put you on a medicine and you just start detoxing you on the inside, and all those toxins start circulating and they can’t get out, you’re going to get really mad at me, you are going to feel terrible and I don’t want you to feel terrible. But on the other hand, if I see that same patient and I start by maybe gently opening up their kidney and making that really healthy and then I maybe start to address their liver and their gut, they are going to have an easier go of it and then they are going to feel so much better as we kind of work through this system.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yeah, that’s amazing. So it is such a great tool to have to help with your patient’s and to help individualize. This is not something that is easy for people to just figure out on their own, obviously.
Dr. Amy Bader: It can be a little tricky, same kind of concept and it really beautifully applies to skin. For example, one particular miasm is going to be prone to things like eczema or dandruff. While another might be prone to cystic problems like acne or maybe warts. Yet yet another one is going to be a miasm that mis-manages connective tissue in minerals. And maybe those people are prematurely aging or their skin is dull or they have circles under their eyes. So when I look at a patient, their skin is an amazing barometer to tell me where do they fit into those categories? And then I know how to address that miasm in order to make it start working better for them.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yeah. Perfect. Do you have any examples of patients that you have worked with that you can share with us?
Dr. Amy Bader: Yeah, I really wanted to showcase with you guys today and I thought, oh, I have got some really weird cool ones, but I wanted to share one that is actually very straight forward. Because this is how it goes 90% of the time. I think she was about 28 years old, came in with pretty profound cystic acne and she had been having acne, waxing and waning various degrees since about puberty. She had tried birth control pills, and didn’t feel good on them. She was put on an accutane, which didn’t work for her. She really thought she had tried everything and she came and said, you are my last resort, which I honestly don’t know if I should take it as a compliment or insult. But nonetheless, there she was. And so we started talking about her case and what I found about her was, she was really having acne on her cheeks, her jaw line, her chin. A lot of that hormonal area was particularly bad. So, her periods were really problematic. They were regular. She was having horrific irritability around her menzies. Of course her skin was flaring at the time. She had very painful periods. Her digestion was oddly feeling okay to her, but I knew there was probably something going on there with her microbiome. And the thing that I thought was most interesting about her though is that emotionally speaking, she was kind of a wreck. I mean she was having a lot of dysfunction, her family and very poor self esteem. And we really talked about what came first, the poor self esteem or acne. And really when she thought about it was really the self esteem that predated the acne. And so I really wanted to address the emotional component of her case, because I think it’s something that doctors don’t talk about, that is skin and emotions and how they go together. And we just kind of forget to talk about that. We just take the emotional bodies, put it over here and take it for granted that it’s not impacting us and ask anyone with eczema when they get upset, they are more likely to flare. And so, what I did right out of the gate is biotherapeutic drainage geared toward primarily her liver, which is going to pick up a big piece of that hormonal imbalance. And then I included some biotherapeutic drainage remedies for her nervous system and the stress she was under and the grief of what was happening in her family. And of course I cleaned up her diet and gave her probiotics and kind of the fundamentals. We did varying degrees of that approach for about three months. And in that time she had about a 70% improvement with her skin and probably about a 90% improvement with her third period. So she was really thrilled. Oh and I did a homeopathy called CPF for her, which is very hormonal. It also fit her miasm really beautifully. And so next steps, now that we have set a foundation, I really wanted to focus on the skin because that is the one place that is the barometer for her. That is where she shows most of her vulnerability. So I shifted the drainage remedies to skin remedies for acne and I shifted her remedy toward a very miasmatic remedy that is around low self esteem. And after about two months of that, she was 95% clear. And this was eight years ago and I actually just talked to her maybe six months ago and she is still clear. She went on and she has had two kids since then. She feels great. And she is like, yeah, I have not struggled with my acne one bit since. So that is what I want to hear. I want to hear people get better, stay better. They keep eating right. They get their sleep, they move, they drink their water. But you know, their body pattern has fundamentally changed in that challenge is, Oh yeah, I remember that acne, it was terrible. We had that for a long time.
Dr. Trevor Cates: And she is not continuing to take the homeopathics?
Dr. Amy Bader: I have not seen her because I don’t treat pregnant women. So when she came in and then she ended up getting pregnant, maybe six months later. I had her kind of in maintenance mode and then she got pregnant, and then she called me up. She was like, I didn’t even think I would get pregnant. She never even voiced any concerns around getting pregnant to me, but in her own mind she had concerns. Anyway, she got pregnant and called me and said she was and we were very excited and then she got pregnant again right away. And I said, healthier bodies get pregnant easier. And then she has just been so well. I have not actually seen her other than she emails me every now and then to check in and say thanks, and that she is still doing good.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Great. And so how long does she have to take the homeopathics and the drainage.
Dr. Amy Bader: The beauty of it is it’s really around changing the behavior of the body. So if I get it right, we will elicit fairly permanent change. So it was really about shifting her body to not behave like that anymore. It learned poor behavior somewhere in the past and we just undid it. So if I do my job, there is going to be probably very few times in her life, she might have to repeat some of that. Maybe if a large stressor comes up or something, you know, or really shifts in her health for some reason. But for right now, her body is behaving, just the way we want it to. And honestly, I would just like to not mess with it.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Oh, that’s amazing. And then I guess, if she does have a setback, she could come back in and get a reset. We go through periods of stress, we maybe don’t eat so well. We get sick, even a virus can kind of shake people up.
Dr. Amy Bader: Then some disturbance comes along, but she is not anticipating it, I am sure she will be back in, but in the meantime I’m just thrilled knowing that she is happy and that is what I want for all my patients. So that is the goal is just to fix as much stuff as we can fix.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Right. And you talk about skin being a great barometer for her and it is for many people. I know it is for me too. I certainly look at my face and as soon as I start to get the redness and rosacea and eczema, any of those kinds of things, temples, breakouts, whatever, it’s like, okay, what’s going on? It is definitely in my barometer too. And so if you help with a lot of skin things, but it’s not just skin that you can help obviously. It is even that case that you shared.
Dr. Amy Bader: I work with patients with all kinds of things. I mean I feel like my specialty is more in the area of the kinds of medicine I use versus the kinds of diseases I attract to my practice. I just happen to attract a lot of dermatology, but I treat digestive issues, you know, allergies, depression, anxiety. I’ve got quite a few oncology patients in my practice. I’m doing support around radiation or chemo. I get referrals from MDs a lot in my practice who are like, I don’t know, it is just a weird situation. Go see Amy. And so, a lot of very complex cases. I literally had an attorney send a patient and said, we have no idea what to do with you. Go see Amy. She does weird things. It will help.

Dr. Trevor Cates: Well, they call those the strange, rare and peculiar cases. Right?
Dr. Amy Bader: Exactly. That is my specialty. If you have a body and you have a problem, I would love to work with you.
Dr. Trevor Cates: I want to talk to you about your other skin passion. So what you are talking about with the homeopathy and the drainage are great. There are also of course skincare products and I know that you use The Spa Dr. skincare products.
Dr. Amy Bader: Yes, I do. Every single day at least twice a day, sometimes three.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yes, I appreciate that. Especially, you know, you being in the Olivia skin type and the tendencies that you have, then certainly The Spa Dr. helps with that, but you have got your own skin care product. So tell everybody about that.
Dr. Amy Bader: Yeah. You know, it’s funny because when I first started this adventure, I was thinking about skin, but it was also thinking about whole health, right? And your skin being a reflection of what is going on, on the inside. And it was really around collagen. And I know you are a fan of collagen too Trevor and wanting to find a good way to get it in consistently because I was struggling and my patients were struggling. And so I teamed up with two friends of mine who are like sisters to me and we actually ended up creating a product that has collagen right in it. That it is delicious and it’s easy to use that you can kind of use on the fly and it is a collagen sparkling tea and we call it SkinTe. And it became a thing. It became a real thing. It is funny to have been part of an entrepreneurial world and the startup and watch something that you passionately help create out of your own need become something that is now on a grocery store shelf. It’s been fabulous. But now I am kind of like, now we have hired this wonderful team that is taking over and I can kind of go back to my day job. But yeah, we are doing really, really great. And basically it’s a collagen drink that is combined with beautiful herbs that are great for your whole health and teas like green tea, white tea, hibiscus tea, Rose pedals, things like that that are really going to support your skin and fight free radicals. And the research on all of these ingredients is fabulous, and I couldn’t be more proud of what we made. I really hope people try it and they like it.
Dr. Trevor Cates: And it really does taste good. It is such a refreshing drink. And where do you have SkinTe at this point where can people find it?
Dr. Amy Bader: SkinTe started in Los Angeles and all the Erewhon locations. We will always owe them a debt of gratitude for taking us on. And we did very well there. We are in Sprouts stores nationwide. If you are in the Portland, Oregon or even just Oregon area market of choice, and all the garden bar locations in the Portland area. We are in goop.com. We are in gnc.com and we of course are on SkinTe.com and we do have a code for all your listeners if you would like to try it. The code is going to be TEWITHDRB and I will make sure that everybody gets that code.

Dr. Trevor Cates: Okay, great. We will have that in the show notes. I think it is amazing as an entrepreneur and starting this company that you are still finding time to see patients. You obviously are very passionate about seeing patients.
Dr. Amy Bader: I work in a weird way. I had a patient once who was a medical doctor and she traveled and worked in the hospital one week a month and came home and took the rest of the month off, and I thought she is brilliant. So what I have done is consolidated my patient days and then my phone consultation days and then I have had time to do SkinTe. And of course I am a single mom of a 13 year old competitive swimmer. But now things this year are turning a corner and our team has grown. And so now I am going to be able to have a little ease with how I fit in my patients. And yeah it has been quite, you know, Trevor, you are an entrepreneur too. It’s just balls in the air and you get really good at staying, keeping your head above water and doing your best every day.
Dr. Trevor Cates: So tell people where you are, where your clinics are, and you do phone consults yourself too.
Dr. Amy Bader: Yeah, I do phone consults with people over the Country, actually all over the world. I have patients in Europe too, so you can find it on AmyBadernd.com But in terms of office space, I have an office in Lodi, California, which is, I know people say, why? This is my hometown. And then in Vancouver, Washington, which is just outside of Portland. And then I do these phone consultations with people all over the place and you can find all that information on my website, but I just, I love it. I think it is really fun. And the way I practice you can be anywhere and I can help you get what you need.
Dr. Trevor Cates: And do you help people too, with their diets, their supplements overall, I mean, you know, basic Naturopathic care in addition to the biotherapeutic drainage.
Dr. Amy Bader: When I get a referral from another MD, oftentimes they are already doing fabulous stuff and I am picking up that one piece of the treatment plan. But in general, if people just come to me and they have not been seen by a holistic provider, a Naturopath or a functional medicine doctor, I definitely will plug in the gaps around necessary supplements, make sure their diet is tightened up and we are addressing all the really important lifestyle factors too. So yeah, I do basically whatever the patient needs.
Dr. Trevor Cates: So how does that look? And then the initial appointment. How do you tie all that together because it is a lot to cover and address and is there some sort of way you prioritize? Does somebody need to really be eating a healthy diet before they do homeopathy.
Dr. Amy Bader: The average patient who comes to me and finds me on their own. Well first of all, I have people fill out a pretty extensive form. It gives me a ton of information that I can view a time or two before I ever sit down and either talk with them or sit across the desk from them. And so I have a pretty good idea of what people are walking in the door with. And I already have some ideas for how I can help them. When I sit with someone, I want to hear your story. I want to hear what happened to you along the way that got you to this point you are in now, and you are not feeling good. And even on my website it says, the doctor wants to hear your story. I do. I think people are fascinating. I want to know what happened to trip them up, even if it happened a long time ago. And so I tell people, whatever you’re comfortable telling me, let’s hear it because everything along the way has gotten you to this point and we have things to undo. And that is what homeopathy is, it is really brilliant. It is basically treating those traumas along the way or illnesses along the way so we can kind of treat the past while we treat the present with this system. And it’s really beautiful. I typically spend an hour to an hour and a half with the new patient and then they sit with my staff usually or talk with my staff for about a half an hour, making sure they have all the tools that they need right out of the gate. And honestly by the time people will find me, they’re usually highly motivated and they’re really ready. And they have usually been doing some things on their own too, to try and get some relief. So I love being that piece of their puzzle.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yeah. And so there is homeopathy that people can do on their own, right? There are homeopathic remedies that people can pick up at health food stores. And do you have tips on using those?
Dr. Amy Bader: You know, usually at the health food stores they have this great little flipbook right. And you can kind of look and see, using different chronic diseases. It is definitely a little more challenging. But for example, in my medicine cabinet I have arnica for bumps and bruises. I have Aconite for fear of flying, because I don’t like to fly. So you could probably find some resources probably even at your local health food store. If I am prone to these kinds of things. This is what I want to make sure I have in my medicine cabinet. It can treat everything from acute constipation, honestly, to fear of flying. And that is up to you. And it’s so safe. I just tell patients if you want to go to the store and pick up a few vials of some six C and try them, great. You are not going to hurt anything. If your body gets a signal and it resonates, then great, it will work. And if it doesn’t resonate, then you spent six bucks or seven bucks and it didn’t hurt anything.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yeah. And the ones that people can usually find pretty easily are the boron that come in these little blue tubes with the little twist cap and you can get the little pellets that dissolve.
Dr. Amy Bader: And then for my patients, my more chronic patients, I tend to use a lot of the remedies that are made by Orenda in Belgium. I think there are such high quality remedies, and when you are working with people with really chronic disease. You need it to really, really work. I love that brand. And I also really like the Hahnemann Institute out of San Francisco, I will call in prescriptions there. And so there are a lot of really good companies out there who make some really fabulous, very specialized remedies.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yeah. And some are available to the public and health food stores and the lower dose potency like you mentioned is 6 C which is kind of the lower dose potency. And then there is also 30 C, 30 X 12, and you will see the difference.
Dr. Amy Bader: I mean, I might use a 1,000 whereas in the grocery store you will get a 6 if that gives you any sense of the more powerful ones that I have at my disposal when I sit down with you. And so you have got to really know what you’re doing at that point. You don’t want to just be throwing it around at patients and go, well try that.
Dr. Trevor Cates: And homeopathy is one of the things that I was given as a child that really turned my health around, that turned my skin around. And at the time my family didn’t know what homeopathy was and we thought, Oh, what is this stuff and why is she asking me all these weird questions about my behaviors and stuff? I remember her spending an hour, I think it was at least an hour with me in the appointment and I was 11 years old and thinking why is she asking me all these questions, but I really like it because doctors don’t usually spend as much time with me.
Dr. Amy Bader: I know it is really weird, but what is your favorite kind of weather? And you are like, what? I am like, it is really important, I do need to know.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Yeah. And it all plays in together, but I want people to realize that there are times when you can use homeopathy acutely and you can find them in a health food store. But when you are looking at something that is more chronic, definitely work with someone like Dr. Amy that is experienced in homeopathy and can help you get the right remedy because it can be very stressful and frustrating to try and treat. I mean you can really even complicate it and make it worse.
Dr. Amy Bader: Yeah. I would agree with you on that. Don’t go above a 30 C if you are not, or haven’t studied it for 20 years. That is what I would say is my best advice.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Okay. So Amy you are doing something really generous and I think people really need to jump on this because this is a really nice opportunity to do a 15 minute free call with you.
Dr. Amy Bader: Well, first of all, a lot of times people will call me, before they come to see me because they see my six page form and go, I think I want to talk to her before I fill out that form. So it is not different for me to have a short conversation with people before they come in to see me. With that said though, I thought it would be really fun for your listeners to have a short chat with me, maybe 10, 15 minutes and see if we can hit some highlights in their health history and see what kind of miasm they may fit into. And then I can give them some pointers on how their body might behave and then they can take that away. With some things on how they might want to be treated by doctors or things they might want to do for their health. I will not be giving any overt treatment advice because legally I can not for my patient. But we can definitely give you some tips and some things to think about. So yes, I have set up some spots on my calendar. I am going to give you guys a link, first come, first serve. And when I call you for your slot, if you don’t answer it I might not call you back. So make sure you write it down on your calendar. But no, I am kidding. I will try and track you down. But yeah, I am going to do some of these things for some of your listeners. I think it would be super fun and I love talking to people. Chatty Kathy.
Dr. Trevor Cates: So yeah, you guys all remember that Dr. Amy is one person and so her calendar, when it fills up, she is not going to have any more of those spots, but you have about a month of spots that people will be able to book.
Dr. Amy Bader: Yeah, and my schedule is a little sporadic, so I opened up some windows, a time that I can commit to taking some calls and we will see how fast I fill up.
Dr. Trevor Cates: And that is for people who are watching this right when it goes live. So if you are listening to this, and watching this recording and it has been a while since this came out. You may not be able to find Amy’s calendar live right now, but I do think it is very generous.
Dr. Amy Bader: You can always get my calendar at AmyBadernd.com.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Okay. So there you go. That was going to be my next question: how else can people find you? So tell everybody your website again.
Dr. Amy Bader: AmyBadernd.com and then you can look at SkinTe, my collagen sparkling tea at SkinTe.com And that is SkinTe.com.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Okay, great. Amy, thanks so much for coming on today.
Dr. Amy Bader: I just love being here and I love seeing your smiling face.
Dr. Trevor Cates: Aw, that’s so great to see you.
Dr. Trevor Cates: I hope you enjoyed this interview today with Dr. Amy Bader to learn more about her. You can go to TheSpaDr.com and go to the podcast page with her interview and you will find all the information and links there. And while you are there I invite you to join The Spa Dr. Community so you don’t miss any of our upcoming shows and information. And if you haven’t taken the skin quiz yet, I encourage you to find out if you’re an Amber, Olivia, Sage Emmett or Heath skin type, so that can help you determine what messages your skin is trying to tell you about your health and what you can do about it. Just go to theskinquiz.com to learn more about the online skin quiz and you can join The Spa Dr. on social media. We are on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, and Pinterest. You can join the conversation there and I will see you next time on The Spa Dr. Podcast.