Emotional Fitness with Brett Hoebel

Dr. Cates:                               00:06                       Hi everyone. I’m Dr Trevor cates here. Welcome to the spa doctor podcast. Today we’re talking about emotional fitness. That’s how to benefit from fitness, not just on a physical level and to have fun while doing it. My guest is Brett Hoebel, a, he is the founder of sweat with sole author and creator of the 20 minute body and celebrity trainer. Uninvasive is the biggest loser, season 11. He was named one of the world’s top $100, health and fitness influencers by greatest and must follow people for motivation and inspiration by shape. Magazine. Brett regularly appears on TV shows like Steve Harvey and Dr Oz to discuss topics such as weight loss, bullying, and strategies to stay motivated. He is also a martial arts practitioner and a contributor to national publications like shape, self and women’s health. His fitness from within philosophy is the cornerstone to his body mind approach to health and longevity.

Brett Hoebel:                               01:06                       On today’s podcast, we talk about forms of fitness that will give you a number of benefits as you age, which types of classes to look for and how to start making changes today to impact not only your body, but also your mental, emotional, and spiritual wellbeing when it comes to fitness. So please enjoy this interview. Brad, it’s so great to have you on my podcast. It’s been a long time. You were on the glowing skin summit two years ago and it was fun connecting with you then and now I get we get to hear an update on what you’re up to

Brett Hoebel:                               01:44                       because you’ve been, you’ve been busy, you’ve been doing some stuff and I’m just like, your skin is glowing. I’m like, whatever you’re doing with your products, that’s great. There’s been a lot going on. I was a, you know, when we met, I was really starting to transition my business from offline personal training and in person stuff to more online and that was, that took several years to sort of make that transition and the online marketing. And now I’ve really taken another pivot. Um, personally for me and my career. I really wanted to go in a personal development and fitness, kind of like a tetanus version of Tony Robbins. I really believed, you know, once you’ve committed, fully committed and surrendered, I think to your, your health and fitness, there are so many personal development things that are going to have breakthrough. It’s all over the place or vice versa.

Brett Hoebel:                               02:41                       We may have a breakthrough in something emotionally and that triggers you to be like, I want to take care of my health. So I’ve always been trying to get to that next level of what is that with my business. And I met an incredible woman, Liberty Chan. We met at actually a live event I was teaching and she was the reporter for and we exchanged information. I asked her out on a bunch of funny fitness dates and we realized that we were really drawn to the people in classes that weren’t just about the body of the workout. They were about the soul, the inspiration, the motivation from soul cycle to lots of things that we were like, wow, that’s all about like this message from the instructor. So we ended up starting to shoot a show where we would go out and actually go to different boutique gyms and rape the body and the soul of every workout is really fun.

Brett Hoebel:                               03:36                       But it became, we didn’t really know there is going to be a sponsor and this is pretty, pretty costly for us to produce, but we still want it to go in this direction of personal development and wellness. And we said, what about t shirts? Like you post quotes all the time. I do. What about tee shirts? So we ended up, uh, I ended up doing a lot of research on t shirts. I was like going to downtown La, going through all these places and every time I’d say you keep wearing the same tee shirts all the time, like who is it? And it was a friend of hers, her friend Jen came on as our partner and we’ve launched this athlete. Your brands, what was Solo? We’re kind of like, almost like a new, newer version of spiritual gangster. It’s, um, very inspirational messages and graphics with a real meaning behind it about personal development and wellness and having a voice.

Brett Hoebel:                               04:28                       So I did really pivot into athletes. You’re but it’s still online marketing to do with fitness brand and all this stuff that I love. I actually get to two and it’s, it’s, it’s interesting because as a trainer I would clearly see the results physically all my clients, what’s cool now as I’m on instagram and I’ll see somebody tag us and you know, someone I don’t know and they’ll say something really nice about the print, like this is our love period. They’ll say something about it. So it’s really cool. Still staying sort of in this genre of personal development and wellness, but just in a different direction. So things have really changed for sure.

Dr. Cates:                               05:09                       That’s great. Well, and it’s interesting because there are these trends and fitness of. It’s not just about physically what you look like, but there’s, you know, people are realizing that so much of fitness is beyond what we physically see, that there are so many health benefits in it and, and, and how it affects our mind. And our mood and our stress and then also we’re going to enjoy fitness more if we can have fun with it and all the different ways that we can do that. So it just seems like, what are you finding with fitness that are the trends that people can be aware of? And I think there’s some really fun classes and things like that out there. So what are you finding to be the big trends now in fitness?

Brett Hoebel:                               05:53                       I see. So one of the ones that I’ve been doing is using, it was only martial art cup widow with yoga and I’ve been doing a bunch of popups here in la at yogaworks. I think these, particularly in Yoga, which has really grown globally a lot. Everyone’s like, oh, of course. But I mean it’s still growing and growing and growing I think was interesting as the yoga community, at least the people I spoke to said, you know, we don’t really want to compete against the other yoga people for members because they have them. We’re trying to go into fitness and bring the fitness people into yoga. So we want to do fusion classes, that fitness with yoga, so yoga, martial arts or yoga hit hit, hit high and a high intensity interval training. Yoga sculpt was one of the big ones a couple of years ago, core power yoga, Yoga sculpt where they have weights.

Brett Hoebel:                               06:44                       So at least in one genre of yoga, which is ice expanding. I see so many yoga studios happening in more of my friends doing it, uh, because they’re lifters or something else and they’re like, I have to take care of my body. Mobility and flexibility is really big now. A lot of people that I know are going into it, it’s cool to see the yoga community who is a very low, loyal and traditional community accepting these fusion classes. And it’s been great for me to go now from online, back into offline and meeting people face to face and really doing that and I get to also integrate my clothing with it because it’s something that speaks to all of this audience. So I think particularly yoga fusion classes from Yoga, sculpt, yoga, martial arts are huge. Another big genre that I’ve seen opening up or are more movement based programs like animal flows, a big one that started at equinox with a guy, Mike Fitch and it’s, it’s kind of this full body movement.

Brett Hoebel:                               07:48                       You don’t need a Mat. It’s just kind of like, it’s not about what it looks like. It’s about what it feels like type of movement. I think people like a condom, Mcgregor and some of the other big UFC guys that are really into this type of movement. Ido Portal and these guys have really pushed the limits of it that you have a lot of people getting into it because again, cross training and movement and mobility is so important. Um, mobility in itself and we’ll use to thing. I think for awhile I was like, oh, a foam roller, foam rollers in the balls. There’s now courses on it and certifications. Good friend of mine, Dr Jen asked her and she goes by doc John Fit on instagram. She has an incredible mobility program, but I think cross fit and all the people that were doing that trying to prevent injuries, they were really pushing mobility. So a mobility as a method, I believe is something. There’s classes on it now. I think that is a very big growing trend because there’s a lot of injuries coming on as high intensity interval training has picked up crossfit a bells and all these Olympic lifting. There’s definitely been a lot of injuries. Mobility is huge. So I think that’s one.

Dr. Cates:                               09:03                       So when you talk about mobility, um, so what I mean, what is it to explain to people? What does that mean? Like what you’re talking about all these classes which are great if you live in a big city and you can go to these classes. Many of in Park City, we’ve got some, some really interesting classes that are incorporating some of these combos that you’re talking about, but for people who maybe don’t have access to that or don’t really know what, what do you when you were like, what can they be incorporating in their fitness routine to make sure that they don’t get these injuries? Because it is something I see a lot and I, I love people being active and fit, but we definitely don’t want to inter ourselves because that defeats the purpose. Then we can’t exercise. We can do all the things that really sets us back.

Brett Hoebel:                               09:49                       So mobility is having a greater range of motion around the joint. So some people argue that means stretching the muscles. Well not necessarily. It made me in strengthening a muscle so that the brain thinks that you’re stable and it will release the other muscles to stretch, but that you actually can take your arms over your head, reach back. So it’s really trying to get a greater range of motion around the joint is to be more mobile or mobility. How you do that, whether it’s foam rolling, a different types of stretching. I checked more than the more mobility type of stretching, dynamic stretching. So instead of sitting in holding will be like rethink through a range of motion and then reaching back out. Your muscles have to contract and released during that. And maybe you don’t have a lot of rotation, but as you do these active range of motion, you get more mobile. So there’s a lot of different ways of teaching mobility classes that are going to not, I don’t want to say flexibility because most people with flexibility means my muscles are more flexible and muscles are one way that you keep that mobility around the joint. There’s a lot of other ways, soft tissue, the Fascia, a lot of things. So, um, if you are interested in that, you can go look at some of the gyms are yoga places and the word mobility will probably be on the strategy.

Dr. Cates:                               11:11                       Okay. So that’s kind of like a buzzword in fitness right now it sounds like. Is Mobility, mobility, incorporating that? It’s funny, I was just working out yesterday with Kathy Smith. She’s been on the podcast, big time fitness person. For those people who don’t, maybe don’t remember. If you look at a picture over, you’ll probably recognize her because she’s been around for a long time. We went to the gym yesterday together and she lives in Park City and she was showing me a lot of the trx stuff, you know, and they’re the long straps, a lot of gyms have them and she was showing me how you can get the mobility, that aspect in with it. So, you know, incorporating, stretching in with the different exercises. So that’s, you know, an example of a class that we have apparently like every Monday and park city at 8:30 AM. There’s this great class that she goes to and um, you know, so there were definitely things like that. And most gyms I think half the trx equipment, right?

Brett Hoebel:                               12:06                       Yeah. That’s suspension training is amazing because it will give you enough support that you know, you don’t have to because if you want a stretch where if you want to get mobile, your brain has to think number one that you’re balanced and stable is. It thinks you’re wobbling around, it’s going to contract everything and you’re not going to be able to get any movement. So those are great because it gives you more stability. So an example that I’ve done with those, uh, particularly with certain clients that have complained about knee injuries or knee pain, I need them to actually squat and stand up to get the blood and the juices flowing in the needs, but they’re like, no, I can’t do that. If they hold on to suspension training like Trx, then all their weight is in their hands on their knees and they can sit down and stand up, which really helps. I call them neat greasers to open up the fascial tissue and the joints and just get the synovial fluid moving. So that’s a perfect example of using the trx. Now you like go less with your hands, your, your, your quads and life’s going to do more work, but you can also support yourself more and really use it as a mobility range of motion exercises. So that’s a great example, like you said.

Dr. Cates:                               13:13                       And so that’s called suspect. I guess there’s more than Trx, right? It’s called suspension. What’d you call it? Suspension.

Brett Hoebel:                               13:21                       Suspension. Training. Trx is one tool that is, that is a suspension trainer. It’s gonna suspend down from something and you can hold onto it. Trx is one great brand. They’re definitely the most popular, but there’s a lot of other companies out there that do suspension training and it’s good for mobility work and it’s really good to create a lot of instability to really challenge your body. And I, it’s great. So like doing a pushup where you’re holding the handles is actually much more difficult than doing a push up on the floor because the handles are moving around. You have to stabilize yourself, but then again you can move the handles so that someone is almost standing upright. Doing a pushup could be very easy or you could bring it down to the ground. So the trx has got so many versatile things. It’s a great tool.

Dr. Cates:                               14:10                       Yeah. Um, and I, you know, I think it really depends on where people are in their fitness level as far as where to start because some people may not be ready for trx because it definitely, I think it’s good to have somebody show you how to use it. Maybe go to a class or work with a trainer to show cause you gotta have the straps right length and you have to have your body positioning right to have somebody walk you through it because I. There’s no way I would’ve been able to just pick up those things and figure out what to do them right, so I think it’s good for people to realize you realize where you are in fitness. Make sure that you don’t have any physical limitations for the particular exercises that we’re talking about. If you need to talk to your doctor first, certainly run it by your doctor. If you have any health conditions or pain or anything like that, certainly talk to your doctor about that before I’m doing any of these things. Same thing with pregnancy or something. It’s always just like to remind people that and, and if you’re starting something new, get some help, go to classes, go find an instructor. Go with friends that work out a lot or a personal trainer, somebody that can kind of guide you through. Any other tips on that, Brett? People getting started.

Brett Hoebel:                               15:20                       I would say if I would call this my mobility survival kit, these are three things that you could get and they’re reasonably priced. You can get them off. Amazon is a foam roller to start with. Generally a softer one. They’d sell harder ones, but software one is going to be a good one to start with. A tennis ball, something simple like that where you could do trigger point work to release trigger points. You could move up to a Lacrosse ball which is much more dense but a little bit more painful and then we call them strength bands. They’re like a big rubber band. They do not have a literally a giant rubber band closed circle that you can strap around your arm and suspend over something to get a good stretch for your hip. And then I’m a great website or APP that I use is called mobility wod and they have all these exercises.

Brett Hoebel:                               16:10                       They’re on youtube. Some of it’s free, some of it is subscription based, but I’m really, really, really great information. How to increase your posture and all that. But because as I’m getting older and I’m, and keeping up my training, I can 100 percent say the most important thing is injury prevention, you know, I’m in my forties and as I’m getting closer to 50, it’s so important to. It’s all about injury prevention and mobility is the number one thing. So if you’re sitting at a desk for a long time and that’s your thing, and I’m, I’m not in a cubicle, but I had to get a stand from my laptop lot other stuff. If you’re in that position for six, seven, eight hours a day, it’s a lot of strain on your posture and you really do need to do stuff to help correct you to get out of it. And Mobility training is, to me the number one thing.

Dr. Cates:                               17:05                       Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Those are great things to start. Start simple. I mean, I have in my downstairs, um, you know, my little area where I work out. If I don’t have time to go to the gym, I have a physio ball, I have the bands, I have some, you know, one set of 10 pound weights just to have some sort of resistance. Um, and I have one of those weight balls too because I liked doing like some of the Africa, so it’s just really simple stuff that. And I could do so many different workouts, but that little bit of um, a little bit of equipment, it was like barely costs anything.

Brett Hoebel:                               17:40                       Now the interesting thing for me that I’m seeing a direction as well, something that I call emotional fitness really believe is going to be a future trend where like I was explaining what I met liberty. We were really attracted to the classes, the studios to the instructors. I call this fitness church. So my parents would go to church and they had this community, you know, I would go with them and it was like this is a special environment, but I feel like a lot of people in my generation and younger generations churches is not as, it’s just not as regular. So it’s like where do you get that communal and spiritual feeling? And for a lot of us it’s in the gym, it’s in fitness because there are people that are coming there and they’re really your tribe or your squad. They’re the ones showing up at seven in the morning, six in the morning on the weekends, et Cetera.

Brett Hoebel:                               18:33                       And it creates that community. So we were experiencing that and the thing that I noticed about this when I’m in there and I feel like it’s been as churches, there’s a real, real inspirational message coming from this instructor were they generally turn their pain into purpose and they’re giving these examples of that. And I swear it’s like, you know, I’ll be on the bike at soul cycle, underclass and it feels like, you know, Oprah is talking to you. Like I love Oprah soul sessions and it’s one of those feelings and it’s, it really takes a special instructor. But it was interesting. The class format that I got to experience with some most was an indoor cycling and it makes sense. You’re seated, you can’t go anywhere. There’s rows of people. There’s a podium almost like where a minister would be, you know, they’re up there, it’s arranged almost literally like a church you and then there’s the music, the movement is repetitive so you kind of get lost and when I started teaching my classes that are in a studio, like a yoga or weight training class, I’m breaking down the elements of this indoor cycling class and say, how can I get the same emotional experience in a studio and this is the emotional fitness and it’s been very interesting sort of dissecting the class and saying this type of repetitive motion, this type of music, here’s a holding pattern that you can talk about something.

Brett Hoebel:                               19:57                       Don’t talk in long sentences, maybe you talk in soundbites, turn your pain into purpose and things like that. So for me personally, this has been such an. I’m just a gratifying direction and exciting direction for me to go in and starting to consult with other instructors that have this inspirational message and it’s really cool and I think your people are going to see this more in the industry coming out.

Dr. Cates:                               20:19                       Well that’s really great and I know it doesn’t. It’s not the same as church. People aren’t sitting up there talking about God, right? It’s more about your purpose in life and living a meaningful life and having that kind of connection with others and connection with something higher than yourself that’s probably kind of the top. And then also working through the pain because you’re in, you’re in a fitness class is a perfect example of your

Brett Hoebel:                               20:45                       probably uncomfortable. You’re pushing yourself outside

Dr. Cates:                               20:48                       your comfort zone. And so then it’s like, why are we doing this? What? Is there something bigger than us? Is there a bigger reason for the and, and overcoming obstacles. I think this is a great opportunity. I love, you know, used to be something you’d get a lot in yoga classes where there would be a, you’d start off with some sort of set intention setting you to end with Jay and gratitude and sitting, you know, sitting in, when do you call it, the relaxed pose. And, and so I love to hear that fitness classes are doing more of that. I haven’t had that personal experience. I don’t go to a lot of fitness classes, but um, I’m, I’m excited to hear about that because that makes it so much more fun. I imagine it’s a lot easier to get through classes that may be uncomfortable.

Brett Hoebel:                               21:36                       It makes you, it makes you come back because you’re gaining something besides the physicality. And I think for a lot of people, once they felt that someone has spoken to that spark inside of them or made them think about that, it’s incredible because it’s kind of like therapy. Everybody needs, you know, we all need a release. We all need to have these conversations with our southeast honest conversations with ourselves that we may not have. But when you, and I say this, you don’t just sweat, you sweat with soul. You start to have these conversations. You start to develop that relationship to your fitness that is deeper than the skinny jeans or the six pack or whatever, which is fine, but there’s an underlying reason of why we want that. Why is it because we want to feel beautiful for our significant other again, or whatever it is.

Brett Hoebel:                               22:28                       There’s. So there’s a lot of deeper stuff. When I was a trainer on the biggest loser, the number one thing to get the weight off of these huge contestants, was he emotionally? That’s the number one thing. So that’s another reason why I chose the name of the company sweat was sold was, it was, you know, this is something that kept speaking to me. It’s a deeper relationship, not just with your fitness, you can sweat with soul in your career in a relationship, but there’s really a deeper relationship to the things that you do, your wellness, your relationship, your career, digging down deep and learning how to sweat with soul with that. It’s important. So I think you’re right.

Dr. Cates:                               23:07                       Yeah. And, and you know, I, when I, um, you know, thanks for sharing that about biggest loser when I was at the waterfront area and I was doing these weight loss programs. That was one of the things that kept coming up with people as it be this, um, emotional resistance. And so people, if they were eating their comfort food or where they’re being asked to step outside their comfort zone on what they were used to eating or the exercise or any of that, I realized they’re just get this block or people would lose the weight but then gain it right back. Um, and so, um, that’s why I went and did a master’s degree in spiritual psychology during that time, was to figure it to help people work through those obstacles, their head and that, you know, the emotional, mental, spiritual, you know, those reasons why I’m always trying to look for the root cause, the underlying cause that’s holding people back. And some of these emotional things that come up are really big. So if you can figure out a way to incorporate that into your fitness routine and that actually then becomes a release more than the, Oh my God, I gotta I gotTa go to the gym, I got to go work out. I gotta gotta get that done so I can actually have fun with my day. Um, instead having some fun with it,

Brett Hoebel:                               24:17                       you know, and I think,

Dr. Cates:                               24:19                       I’m hoping we see more and more of these classes like you’re talking about across the country and I think it’s good for people to start asking, you know, looking around for these, demanding it, suggesting it because it sounds like a little bit of a movement is happening here

Brett Hoebel:                               24:34                       and it’s just the science of it is when you’ve gone through a workout like yoga was created, my understanding was to actually physically Jedi ready for that final resting pose. Shavasana. And if you don’t do the physical movement, then you know you’re not really opened up. And when you, when you’ve gone through a great yoga class, you get into Boston, so you can just hit it in, boom, you’re in that zone. But if you were to come out after you just, you know, went through la traffic trying to park and try to sit down into it, probably going to be a lot tougher. So it’s the same way with this emotional fitness is when people are exercising and their dopamine is being released and epinephrine and Adrenalin of all these things. You are primed to receive a message. I mean you really are on a sign, you know, on a scientific level, just like post workout, your body has changed the chemistry so that you should be able to absorb these postworkout nutrients that are different at another time and when people are going through these workouts, it particularly, they’re going through physical discomfort and I call it the chatter was trying to tell them to quit.

Brett Hoebel:                               25:46                       It’s a great time to deliver that message about not quitting and why, you know, whatever you can say, pain is temporary, quitting is forever. Whatever it is to get people to connect to that of like, yes, so it, it’s, it’s the perfect. You have the perfect recipe is the perfect ingredients when you do it with fitness to deliver this message and to have people really received it.

Dr. Cates:                               26:08                       Yeah, absolutely. That’s great community aspect too, because we know that there’s a lot of healing that can happen in communities and I talk about my home workout gentlemen, Gentlemen, put it in air quotes here, but I do think, I mean sometimes it’s, you know, that’s what I can fit in, but I do think it’s good too to try and figure out community along with us. So I love that idea too.

Brett Hoebel:                               26:38                       It’s something that I’ve just been so grateful. Have you been doing crossfit and sort of and yoga. There is this community feeling that is, like I said, this fitness church, this belonging somewhere, and also getting this kind of spirituality from it that keeps me coming back for more and we all need that. If we want to stay healthy as we get older, trust me that it’s fine to want to get better because aesthetically if you want to look better naked, we all do, but that doesn’t always get you there in the mornings and keeping that consistency and that commitment going so

Dr. Cates:                               27:15                       absolutely like love on your hat and you, um, you know, you have these messages. I think that there’s such power in the message that we carry around with us and we are. When you’re wearing it, you’re saying this is you’re making a statement about yourself. You’re also sharing that with everybody around you, but I oftentimes will do an affirmation or a word pause. I’ll put it up on the refrigerator in my house or in the mirror in the bathroom, but when you’re wearing it, it’s even you can’t necessarily see except for when you put it on, but you know you’re wearing it all day long or when you go and work out and then other people you’re sharing that message with others, so I think that that’s great.

Brett Hoebel:                               27:59                       I have a hat that says peaceful warrior. That was one of our original prints and it is so interesting because as a guy, I don’t get a lot of compliments from other men on my clothing. It’s just a rarity. I think that’s just a guy kind of cultural thing, but with that one hat that says spiritual, I’m sorry, it says peaceful warrior. So many guys come up all the time and it just now thinking business wise, we doubled down and we started giving, so influencer marketing is a big part of marketing these days is giving the people that have great social media following that is the one print now that we’re really sending out because I have seen the impact and the connection it is at with so many other people. I mean with men particularly, but also women and I’ll be on the, you know, I was on the dance floor recently and a guy literally came walking or saw him like walk across the dance floor because I just wanted to shake your hand and I think it’s also very timely with the, just all the crazy stuff that’s happening politically, but it really resonates with a lot of people.

Brett Hoebel:                               29:06                       So yeah, I love period had a peaceful warrior. It’s really cool seeing people resonate with the message behind it and say something about it and I’m so proud to be able to put that out there for people to experience it for themselves.

Speaker 2:                               29:22                       Great. Well thank you for all your information today. I love this idea of emotional fitness and, and, and making fitness fun, making it more than just about how we physically look and then bringing in the message or messages that you have, go along with it. So how can people find, but everybody know how they can find out more value. Find out about your, um, your apparel and where they are.

Speaker 3:                               29:52                       For me personally, most of my social media is my name Brett Hope Bell, but for the brand, this Ashley’s your company sweat with soul. Um, and his sweat with Sol Sol, all the social media for that instagram, facebook, and the website sweat was sold.com. So either one.

Speaker 2:                               30:12                       Okay, great. All right, well thanks again for coming on. And um, any last parting words, anything you want to share?

Speaker 3:                               30:20                       So want to ask you while I’ve got you. I’m like, I got to ask her some skincare questions. Something that has been very interesting to me has been the use of cbd oil for inflammation, particularly because of all the contact sports. So a question. I just started seeing people integrating cbd into skincare. Scott. So I’m now, you know, again in my forties, I really starting to think about this more sunscreen, all this other stuff. Uh, do you have any thoughts particularly on cbd in this growing industry of anti aging and skincare and stuff like that?

Speaker 2:                               30:59                       And you’re talking about topically?

Speaker 3:                               31:03                       Yeah.

Speaker 2:                               31:03                       Yeah. See, media is getting so much attention right now and uh, and I, and I think it’s great. There’s some great health properties for CBD. I think it’s um, it’s not a cure all, like I think it’s being marketed to be. I think people are going a little overboard with all the different claims. So, um, but we do know that CBD has some great anti inflammatory properties, so if you can get a good source of topical cbd, I does seem like it might be helpful in soothing and being anti-inflammatory. I’m not using it yet in my skincare line. I’ve certainly been keeping an eye on it, looking at the options for that and it might be something do down the road, but I’m in a really. I think there are a lot of great ingredients for skincare and CBD is one, but I think that there are a lot of other options out there for anti inflammatory ingredients and know people get excited about something new and that’s good.

Speaker 2:                               32:01                       I’ve got a big buzz and uh, so I think there’s some great things about cbd. Also think that there are some also some, some really important things, you know, really it comes down to having natural links, clean ingredients and having active ingredients, things that we know are going to be like inflammatory or, or Ph balancing, those sorts of things. And then also the Ph of the formulations are really important because our, our skin has this natural acid mantle, this acid acidic, mildly acidic environment that protects it and keeps it healthy. Skin microbiome. So making sure that whatever the skincare products are you using aren’t, don’t have a high ph. so it actually, I like to seem like four point six to five or somewhere around there are definitely below five point five as far as Ph. so those are, those are the main things that I look for.

Speaker 2:                               32:52                       Cool. Your line, what would you suggest for a guy like me? I’m sorry, say that again? From your skincare line, what would you suggest for someone like myself? Well, we have the daily essentials. It’s a four step skincare system and it’s great for both men and women. It’s great for all skin types and it does incorporate all those things. The natural cleaning ingredients. It’s formulated with natural actives and the right amounts and the right balance and really potent ingredients and then also in the correct ph that supports the skin and the skin microbiome. Yay. Okay, cool. So here’s a tip for guys is because it’s a four step system, sometimes guys go, oh my gosh, that’s way too much. I barely even use one product. So here’s what I tell the men because women don’t have any problem with using four products. I mean a lot of women use even more than four.

Speaker 2:                               33:49                       So I’m with guys. It’s so the four steps. The first step is a cleanser, so use Allen and then you rinse it off and then with steps two, three and four, just put them, mixed them all together and then put them on together. You don’t have to do one and then the other like, like women do. So that’s what I find with guys, they, they tend to like that and it still has a great benefit and even if you have facial hair, it’s great, you know he can still use it and it works. Great. Awesome. See, that’s what I needed to know. Thank you. All right, well thanks for the question Brad, but that’s awesome. Thanks for coming on today. All right. See you guys. You enjoyed this interview today with Brett and got some great tips on how to make fitness fun to be able to enjoy it in a way that not only helps you on a physical level but on many levels.

Speaker 2:                               34:38                       So to learn more about Brat, you can go to the SPA Dr. Com, go to the podcast page with his interview and you’ll find all the information and links that he spoke about there. And while you’re there, I invite you to join the spa doctor community so you don’t miss any of our upcoming shows. If you haven’t done so already, I highly recommend you get your customized skin [email protected]. Just go to the skin quiz.com. Takes just a few minutes. You can find out what messages your skin may be trying to tell you about your health and what you can do about it. Just go to these skin quiz.com. Also, I invite you to join me on social media, on facebook, twitter, instagram, youtube, pinterest, and join the conversation and I’ll see you next time on the spot after podcast.