The Liver’s Connection to Emotions and Health with Dr. Ameet Aggarwal

Dr. Cates: Hi there. I’m Dr Trevor Cates. Welcome to the spa doctor podcast. On today’s podcast, we’re covering the livers impact on your health, skin, and even your emotional state. My guest is Dr. Ameet Aggarwal. He is a naturopathic doctor and psychotherapist. Dr Ameet’s happiness and health online program helps people with emotional issues, weight loss, hormonal balance, a leaky gut and adrenal fatigue. It’s the only online program to be approved by both the commission of dietetic registrants and by naturopathic professional associations, for naturopaths, nutritionists and dietitians. His bestselling Book Heal your body, cure your mind, is a comprehensive approach to treat anxiety, stress, and depression. Dr Ameet is joining us from Kenya where he also has started mobile clinics for poor communities there. In today’s interview, Dr. Ameet explains the connection between the health of our livers and our emotional and physical wellbeing and he shares a specific ways to improve your livers function as well as emotional release techniques to optimize health and healing. So please enjoy this interview with Dr. Ameet.

Dr. Cates: Ameet, it’s great to have you on my podcast. Welcome.

Dr. Ameet: Thanks Dr Cates. It’s a pleasure. It’s a pleasure. I’m really excited. I’m going to hear some wonderful news with you, but I’ll let you get started first.

Dr. Cates: Yeah. So I don’t know, we wanted to talk about it. You know, there’s so much talk about gut health and the importance of gut health and inflammation and your focus. You focus a lot on the liver and the importance of the liver. And I think sometimes we overlook the liver and our talk about the gut health. So I’m excited to find out more from you today. Hear what your take is on the importance of the liver.

Dr. Ameet: Awesome. Okay. So yeah, you’re right. A lot of people focused on inflammation and leaky gut, right? So when you’re eating inflammatory foods, it creates, it caused the damage in the intestinal lining, kills off your probiotics. And so most people are treating themselves only with probiotics and changing their diets, right? But the thing is that what happens with leaky gut in any inflammation is with inflammation, the liver also gets inflamed and a lot of toxins are created in the body with inflammation and the liver becomes toxic and delivers the master organ. So it’s important for blood sugar regulation, detoxification digestion, bile production, hormonal balance, et cetera. And when you live, it becomes toxic and inflamed. It actually becomes more stagnant as we see in Chinese medicine, it’s known as liver qi stagnation. And with liver qi stagnation, you actually have less bile being produced or not, not the right quality of bile being produced. Right. And that then creates more indigestion, gas and bloating. And the funny thing is that most people forget that when there’s not enough bile flowing, you have less lubrication. And with less lubrication you have more constipation. So most people make the mistake of taking a laxative for constipation rather than treating the liver. So it’s really important in addition to using probiotics and glutamine,and glutamine d to heal inflammation in the gut. What I write about in my book is how to also treat the liver because when you have the liver being treated, then you release bile properly, your hormones come into balance and you have less pms symptoms and many other factors we’ll talk about.

Dr. Cates: Yeah. And I, I know that, um, we talk a lot about in the pod and the podcast about the holistic approach. It’s the body and that we don’t want to treat anything in isolation. I focus a lot on skin, right? But skin isn’t just an organ by itself. It’s all interconnected. So talking about the liver, it’s, it’s great to talk about this because I do see that there’s a big connection throughout the body with a lot of different systems and the function of things like the adrenals and mental health and thyroid. A lot of things are connected to the liver, right?

Dr. Ameet: Everything is getting through the liver. It’s the Master Oregon, right? So if your liver is toxic, then you’re not detoxifying well enough. With too much toxins, you have more and more inflammation, right? So your skin will get worse. That’s the first thing. Then the funny thing is that your thyroid hormone, so t four inactive t four is actually converted a lot of it. About 70% is actually converted into active t three in your liver. And so if you have an inflamed liver or liver qi stagnation, you conversion of t four to t three is compromised, right? So you have subclinical hypothyroidism and people are busy trying to treat the thyroid or the adrenal system, ignoring the liver. .

Dr. Cates: So what do we want to do with the liver to help support it and make sure that that connection with the different systems is working right and that our liver is functioning properly.

Dr. Ameet: Okay. So first thing is you’re supposed to remove toxins. Yeah. So that’s the typical heal your gut protocol, right? That’s eating less inflammatory foods, less pesticides and less medications and alcohol

Dr. Cates: And then there’s personal care products too, right? All the toxins in personal care brand that adds to it too.

Dr. Ameet: Ya. And like I love your work because you always mentioned that what you put on your skin is absorbed into your body and your so right. And It goes straight to your liver. You know, people think that it’s just on the surface of the skin, but all that, those harmful cosmetics goes straight into your liver. And so you’ve got to heal the gut first and removing inflammatory foods then. And it’s about using herbs and supplements to heal the liver. I typically use milk thistle, dandelion artichoke leaf, different herbs and there’s so many out there and that will treat your liver at one by healing the cells. And number two by actually the bitter taste and certain ingredients in those Herbs stimulate your liver to produce more bile to detoxify. And that’s really important. You want to do both. Yeah. You want antioxidants because remember your liver is detoxifying toxins, so it’s going through a lot of oxidative stress. And so to counteract the free radical damage, we need antioxidants. And that’s your vitamin A and Vitamin C and see the blueberries, the berries, yeah. Glutathine as well. It’s super important to protect your liver. I sometimes use Alpha lipoic acid. Although being in Kenya we try and minimize the amount of supplements we are prescribing out here. Just because we’re limited in resources and stuff like that. Yeah. And eating bitter foods. Eating bitter foods is super important because the bitter taste on your tongue it actually stimulates bile flow. So try not to put honey and things like that. Sweeteners in it. I think it think of it as food, as medicine. Um, what else?

Dr. Cates: Well, I didn’t know. I think it’s really interesting when you talk about the bitter taste because I think that so often, we take supplements or like you said, cover it up with honey or things like that to remove that bitter taste. And I think a lot of times people don’t realize that that bitter herbs, there’s a reason why they taste bitter and there’s an end. If you remove that, that effect on the body, then you’re missing an important step. And I, it seems like you could still get benefits from taking the capsules or, or you know, taking it as an, the capsule form. But doing tinctures is probably what you’re talking about when you’re talking about herbs to be able to taste it, right? Or,

Dr. Ameet: Yeah, absolutely. I find tinctures more bioavailable and the taste is important. It’s a simple example. Like even if you smell something smells and you’ll start salivating, right? If you smell a good for yourself salivating. So in the same way a sense organ stimulate something went on in your body in the same way, when you taste something bitter, something else goes on in your internal system as a response to what you’re ingesting. So I, I try and relish the bitter taste. I just think, okay, I just surrender to anything. Okay. This is healing.
Dr. Cates: Yeah, absolutely. So I think it’s good for people to know that. And then also with foods, what are some of the other foods that are particularly good for the liver?

Dr. Ameet: So, I mean, turmeric is known to be really good for the liver. Turmeric root especially. And then a Dandelion Greens. There’s a, what we call, we call it rocket or arugula here, and I’m not sure what you call it in the states. Is it rocket? Yeah, we have bitter Gourd. Indians called it chlorella. That’s super, super, super important for the liver. Um, so really anything, anything bitter. And then other things also like the cruciferous vegetables, Broccoli, cabbage, those are, are all healing for, I think it’s phase two of the liver’s detoxification pathway. It could be phase one. I might’ve got those mixed up, but super important for the liver as well. And then magnesium. Magnesium is really important for liver function and people forget that a lot. So I often prescribe that. The other thing I’ve prescribed is deep breathing. You know what happens is when you’re stressed, right, you’re breathing very shallow. You only use in the upper muscles here. And that’s why stress people get tight shoulders and you deep grief right you, your diaphragm moves up and down. And that actually has a physical effect on the liver and massages the liver. And so when you’re not deep breathing you’re stressed, your shoulders are tight and you get heartburn and other stress related digestive issues because you live with not being worked on where you well, so everything goes together.

Dr. Cates: So with the deep breathing. Do you have a particular practice that you have people do or just being aware of taking the breath deeper than your chest?

Dr. Ameet: I think, yeah. Five deep breaths, three times a day. That’s easy to follow. And then doing exercises like couple about the yoga, breathing, mindfulness, just getting the body out of the fight or flight state as well. Allowing the body to relax, automatically kick in your parasympathetic nervous system and that will allow the diaphragm to relaxed. Yeah. And so you will have normal deep breathing with that. Um, Yoga Yoga is fantastic for healing the liver. Yeah.

Dr. Cates: Yeah. And so just like you mentioned some of these Dan, he’s bitter foods like Dandelion Greens. How do you consume them in a diet? Like for people who are not used to getting these in their diet, what do you suggest as a way to start introducing them?

Dr. Ameet: Well, I used to drink something very strange coming from Africa and I studied in Canada. It’s been ning tea quite often as a very deep tincture. But too much of it of course has some dangerous effects, but I would just seek these things out in a tea form. Yeah. And put it in a thermos and then sip that during the day because we won’t, a lot of people, they don’t have these things because it’s not right next to them. So I’ll put something bitter in a thermos and carry around with me to ensure that I’m doing that. And what I encourage people to do is when, if they go to a bar, they just, instead of alcohol, they order bitters. Yeah. The bitters formula and put that in a bit of sparkling water.

Dr. Cates: Yeah, I know. Um, I know that bartenders are like, if they see anybody with hiccups or you know, the complains about upset stomach. I know I’ve seen bartenders like say we’ll hear how some bitters and I always, I always think it’s funny to see that because it is like what you’re talking about, that bitter taste. Definitely. has that, that effect on the digestive system and the liver? Yeah.

Dr. Ameet: Yeah. What else can people do is really about education. I find when I talk to my patients about the effect on the liver, they feel more encouraged or inspired to actually seek out the Broccolis and the other bitter foods, right? So education on the reason why we’re working on liver is super important as well. If I just tell somebody, okay, take something for your liver, but they don’t realize why their liver so important, it won’t hit home as hard and there’ll be less motivated. So when they have the carrot in front of them, like an end goal, motivation kicks in, it’s all about psychology as well.

Dr. Cates: Right? I think that, we’re exposed to more toxins now than we ever happen. So I feel like our livers are more bombarded as, especially in certain parts of the world. You know, in the United States, we have so many chemicals, harmful chemicals that we’re exposed to now in our air, water, food, and personal care products that we really do need to give our livers extra love and support so that our bodies can do what they’re supposed to do. And, and we, you know, we have these, these, the, the functionality of our liver is amazing at what it can do to help remove some of the toxins that we’re exposed to and medications too. And you know, for people especially that have to take medications to be able to properly metabolize them. And, and even with hormone function and all of that, our livers are so important.

Dr. Ameet: It was a super important, like whether it’s in the states or even in Africa, I do a lot of mobile clinics. that’s what I want to share. Some use breast. We started this project where I would go out in the bush to poor communities and with mobile clinics and treatment with homeopathy. It’s my dream project and I’m selling a million copies of my book to fund it. But we would use a lot of homeopathy for the liver on these mobile clinics as well. Because in certain areas, there’s no control in pesticides here in Africa, right? People are using very toxic. So it’s all over the world. Everyone’s liver is super stressed and, everyone needs that help and we need more support than usual than our ancestors because the amount of toxins are more what we’re eating is less bitter overall and less nutritious. So the amount of liver support, the modern person needs is literally three times more than our ancestors. I believe that’s true. Yeah.

Dr. Cates: So the first thing is to reduce exposures to an in the environment as much as you can. And then the second thing is to include some of the herbs and foods that we talked about that you’ve talked about. Um, and I think it’s really interesting in that connection between the liver and mental health too. So this is an area of interest for you, right?

Dr. Ameet: Yeah. I’m a psychotherapist as well, so I treat a lot of anxiety and depression. I’m using trauma release, homeopathic remedies, and I always start with stabilizing inflammation and the liver, and he got, because what happens is the body affects the mind in multiple ways. Yeah. The first is most people know about it is when you have leaky gut and inflammation, then that causes cortisol imbalance and with the cortisol imbalance, you have a suppression of Serotonin, dopamine, Gaba, and Melatonin leading to anxiety and depression. The second thing is with leaky gut and an unhealthy microbiome, see your good bacteria, your probiotics actually create a produce, serotonin and other neurotransmitters so it’s not all produced in the brain, so we have to heal the gut as well for enough serotonin to be produced in the body. Then the liver detoxifies lactic acid or lactate and with compromise liver liberty stagnation. Then there’s too much lactic acid or lactate in the body. It’s not detoxified well enough, and high levels of lactate has actually been connected to high levels of anxiety and there’s so many other angles. What I love about the liver is like every time you treat it, so many things just peel away. So the liver, those hormones in Chinese medicine and a lot of people with liver qi stagnation, will have a progesterone deficiency and often treat it using homeopathics and Herbs and if you have a progesterone deficiency, Gabba in your brain doesn’t work as well because you need progesterone to help with Gabba. So people with low progesterone are more prone to anxiety. And a lot of people also with liver qi stagnation might be more irritable. See Chinese medicine, we connect, the liver to emotions and irritable people usually have a stagnant liver. Um, what else? If your microbiome is not healthy, if your liver is not producing the right amount of bile, then your intestinal environment, will get unhealthy. There’ll be more inflammation, more interference with the put good bacteria that produce serotonin. So liver qi stagnation and really caused depression as well. And some people are so focused on healing the gut and going for counseling and they, they forget treating the root. The three pillars of health, that’s the gut, the liver and the adrenal system.

Dr. Cates: You put the adrenals in there too. And, certainly with the mental health. I could see how that would be a big focus for you too. Yeah,

Dr. Ameet: Absolutely. With even the liver connection to the thyroid, right. If your liver is compromised, then you have low thyroid function, you’re going to feel depressed, right. And the brain needs thyroid also to create serotonin to produce serotonin. So it’s a vicious cycle. Right. And rather than take St Johns Wart or herb for depression, even though it sounds holistic, one has to really target the root causes. Yeah. The Gut, the liver system and then release emotions using psychotherapy, EMDR topping and family constellation. Something I use as well. And we can talk about that later.
Dr. Cates: Yeah. Well, I mean, I think it’s, I think it’s fascinating that you’re able to combine these together and with your background as a psychotherapist to bring this in. So I mean, you mentioned just a few different types of therapies will you explain those for people that aren’t familiar with them.

Dr. Ameet: Okay. Yeah. For emotional release, um, starting from let’s say this homeopathy, which is energetic medicine, which I used to really strong and stabilize to mine. Then this box flower remedies, which are excellent for emotions. So those are more on the energetic medicine side of things. And then in the counseling, paradigm or set of tools, there’s Emdr, which is eye movement desensitization and reprocessing. It’s a technique where the therapist, I will ask the client to follow my fingers from side to side or tap on certain points while staying connected to a painful memory and certain things that come up with the memory. And by growing this left right bilateral stimulation, the frontal cortex of the brain actually starts processing the stored emotion that’s stuck in the limbic brain. And that reprocessing then helps the person come out of trauma, whether it’s conscious or subconscious, because trauma is stuck in the subconscious and it drives our decisions. It gives us nightmares, it gives us low grade anxiety or chronic anxiety. And so instead of only using domestic impression, one has to release the emotions as well.

Dr. Cates: Right? So this is particularly helpful for people who have like PTSD or some sort of traumatic experience for maybe from childhood or something specific, is that right? Y

Dr. Ameet: eah, something specific. A specific trauma. I also use it for belief systems. Like when somebody realizes, oh, this was their father’s belief or their sister’s belief and they just thought that as reality, the took that is, there’s reality in that moment of realization was like an Aha moment, right? In a Ha moments. Usually there’s a sensation in the body. There’s a visceral experience, right? Because it’s the full body experience. It’s an authentic acknowledgement of truth. And in that I can also do some tapping or EMDR because it helps integrate the realization back into the nervous system. So I love doing that with releases as well.

Dr. Cates: I think that’s a really interesting point because I think a lot of times, I mean I’ve noticed this more, it’s lots of thing I was aware of before that we can take on our parents’ beliefs. But it now that I understand, and when I see this, it makes a lot of sense because as a child, when we’re around our parents, we see our parents as perfect right there. There we look up to them because there are sources survival. And so whatever they do in that moment, as a child, we see this, that that’s perfect and that’s what we are supposed to do. And so it gets programmed in and then as an adult then that can start to come out. I can start to manifest, we start to repeat some of the things that they did that we know is not healthy or that’s not a good idea, but it because it was programmed, it’s great that like the awareness of that is so powerful. Um, and then to be able to process that is fantastic.

Dr. Ameet: Yeah. You know, we associate those dysfunctional behaviors even as love. Like, because that’s our environment, some people associate abuse as a form of love because they’ve grown up with it. Yeah. And so they end up in abusive relationships because that’s what they can relate to. And when you, when you let go of those beliefs. Or when you actually family constellation therapy, we say, okay, I give this back to mom or her tolerance to abuse. I give that to my mom. I don’t have to tolerate it like she did. And I, and I’m still a loyal child. A lot of people follow their parents suffering out of loyalty and because they don’t want to let their parents feel that their loan or betrayed their parents in their mind. Yeah. In their child’s mind. And by saying certain simple sentences like, I leave this with you, mom, I, I still love you dearly and I don’t have to suffer like you did. Yeah. And I still love you and I still connect with you and I have not left you. There’s a reprogram that happens in the subconscious literally, and the person is more able than to get out of an abusive relationship because they don’t feel like they’re betraying the family or not belonging to the family anymore. So that’s what I do in family constellations. And, I think it’s really important who heal trauma as well as dysfunctional. If you want to call it or we’re just harmful beliefs systems along with the liver as well. Of course.

Dr. Cates: Yeah, of course. I mean, it’s an interesting connection too, right? But I think too is as time changes, we, society changes and we don’t have to, behave in the same way that maybe are the traditions or they shift, they change. And so we can reprogram those. Right. Does that make sense what I’m saying?

Dr. Ameet: Absolutely. Reprogramming is exactly what this, yeah. And I’ve actually asked clients to kind of mentally connect to their ancestors and grandparents. I give back, these traditions don’t work for me anymore. They don’t serve my highest purpose anymore. And I willingly let them go and I still remain loyal to our family or to the lineage. I still belong to our family without some of these traditions. And even just asking that permission at a subconscious level lets the person let go of any guilt associated with an ultimate behavior. Very powerful stuff.

Dr. Cates: Yeah. Yeah. Explain a little bit more about family constellations, we haven’t really, we haven’t talked about that I don’t think ever on this stuff. The Spa doctor podcast before. So the idea of family constellations and the new concept for people, probably

Dr. Ameet: it’s one of the most powerful therapies I’ve ever come across. And typically I use like it involves a therapist having certain helpers in the room and you as the client will come and I will ask you to pick certain people to represent your different family members. So family constellations is one of the most powerful therapies I’ve ever come across, to be honest. It’s a form of psychotherapy. I like to look at it that way. And what it does is it acknowledges certain traumas that have happened in previous generations in your family. So whether your grandparents or even with your parents and siblings and uncle was an ass because you belong to a certain energy system. And when things happen in your family, that affects their behavior. Yeah. Everyone’s behavior. And now people who are born in later generations are born off that behavior. How do you mean? Like so if, people were starving at a certain time in their life generation, then they grew up being very careful about food about resources, and so their children are brought up with that mentality and then later on their children will also be brought up with that mentality even though they might not be starving. That’s a very simple example. At the same time though, they’re showing studies where people who have experienced trauma in the wars and they are genetically different than other people who have not experienced trauma and their descendants are actually more prone to anxiety and depression, emotional illness because of the genetic changes. Because of epigenetics. The changes in the genes. Yeah. And how the therapy works is I as a therapist will ask you to pick somebody or something to represent a family member. Yeah. And then I’ll watch the dynamics of the representatives. And when, I’m doing it on Skype, I’ll feel it energetically. It’s known as the knowing field. We tap into the knowing field and we can sense where the imbalances with which parent or which sibling. And by looking at the imbalance, we might not notice the representative for the father is looking away from the mother and the daughter was just staring at the father, right. So that could symbolize in absence of the father and maybe the father is mourning a dead parent from the war. And the mother never had the connection to the father. He had the husband. So the child is feeling the missing that’s going on in the family system. So there’s a, there’s annoying feeling for the child, for the client. And by observing that, we can say certain sentences, we can ask the client certain sentence, like, you know, I acknowledge your absense dad and your pain mom, but I don’t have to carry this in my life, in my relationships. Yeah. So coming out of the system the traumatized system and the constellations happens like that. I had a client who was having anxiety and depression for a long time. We did psychotherapy, we did homeopathy and things just weren’t moving. So I asked her to check with her mom if there was an abortion or miscarriage and the family. And she was shocked when she found out there was, so my client thought she was the first born child. Right. But the thing is there was a miscarriage before her. So in family constellations we actually acknowledge all parts of the systems. We acknowledged the aborted or miscarried children as well. And so I did a little exercise where I got my client to recognize her second place, in her family rather than being the first born child. So she was like, Gosh, this makes so much more sense to my, to my body, to my energy, right? I’m the second child in the system. I don’t belong to the first position so I don’t have to carry so much responsibility in my life. I promise you after that session, she didn’t need any more therapy. It was amazing. Yeah, there was another client from Zimbabwe, the experienced all the violence and there was a conflict with her sister actually that was causing crime on digestive issues. And we did the homeopathy. We did the herb, we did the supplements, mild improvements. And when I got her to a certain technique where she dialogue, talk with her sister, imaginary imaginary sister, like on a chair and giving back, this is pain, et cetera. Her digestive issues resolved in one session after like three months of trying homeopathy and other things. So healing emotionally has a very powerful, powerful effect of course in the mind as well as the body. Yeah.

Dr. Cates: Yeah. I know we’ve gone from the liver to emotions and for some people that might seem like a stretch, but it really is, there’s a big inner connection between the two. And again, it’s this holistic approach looking at the body holistically, whether you’re talking about the skin, you’re talking about the liver, emotional state, uh, we’ve talked about so many different systems and symptoms today and, and there’s this incredible interconnectedness. And so supporting the body both physically and emotionally helps people get to a higher state of health as well as emotional wellbeing. Right?

Dr. Ameet: Absolutely. Both have to happen together. Both have to happen. There’s no separation between mind and body for me anymore. Yeah. And most people, you know, they take supplements too much and they don’t do the therapy or they go for counseling, but they don’t heal the body. Right. And so they’re ignoring a fundamental part of themselves both need to happen together.

Dr. Cates: Yeah, absolutely. Well, tell everybody about your book and you mentioned a little bit of the, of the efforts that you’re doing with the, I’m giving back. So tell everybody more about that.

Dr. Ameet: Yeah. Okay. So my dream is to do mobile clinics, for poor communities in Africa. And I started that project a while ago and supervise volunteers from around the world and we go in the bush and we treat communities, with mostly homeopathy. And because of funding, I had to put it on hold and my mom was also going through cancer at that time. And so I’m starting the project again. I’ve written a book to raise money for it and people are also donating, but I want to do it in a self funded way. So I want to sell really, really a million copies of my books so that I don’t have to ask for funding again. Right? So I want to give back to the person who funds through the book or through the online course I’ve created that’s be actually been approved for CE credits as well for naturopathic doctors and Dietitians.

Dr. Ameet: Um, so the book in the chorus, they cover a lot about what we’ve talked about today, how to heal the gut, the liver. I have some extra exercises in there people can use to heal emotional trauma and police systems at certain remedies in the online course. Homeopathic remedies. I went to a lot of detail about that on which remedies help heal the liver and which remedies can help heal trauma as well. Um, so it’s a very integrated, a full approach really to overall health, right? Fixing inflammation, toxicity, adrenal fatigue and releasing emotional trauma. So people are taking this course are getting a lot, a lot of benefits and using less supplements actually because they’re treating the root cause. And so with enough sales, then I want to go back in the bush. I want to build a hospital. I’ve got the piece of land already.

Dr. Ameet: I’m in the middle of trying to get funds to dig a borehole on a piece of land. So there’s enough water and then, yeah, just educate local practitioners, local health workers in Kenya on how to use holistic medicine and treat the root cause rather than just over prescribing antibiotics all the time. And then I want to research the Herb’s on the mountain. So I live on the foothills of Mount Kenya on the equator and there’s a lot of medicine in our mountains and it’s unexplored. So if I can research that as well and you know, support some local people to grow the herbs as well as reintroduced herbal medicine back in the communities and then teach also volunteers from America, from Canada, how to use my form of medicine. This approach. I use homeopathy as well as the herbs of Mount Kenya. I think we’ll all share enough knowledge to transform medicine around the world.

Dr. Cates: That’s great, so where can people go to find the course and your book.

Dr. Ameet: My website is https://health.drameet.com/. So https://health.drameet.com/ and then, the book is there and there’s a link to the book and the online courses as well.

Dr. Cates: Great. And we’ll have that link up below the show notes in the show notes below the podcast interview on the wet on my website too. So thank you so much for the interview today and I know it’s a completely different time of day there than it is here, so thanks for being accommodating with that and all the work that you’re doing to help heal people globally. So thank you.

Dr. Ameet: Thank you for your time. It was early morning there as well. One little request, if people are interested in getting the book, I’d love them to buy like 10 copies that they can donate to their communities as well or even send like just buy large number, then I can use that amount. Any profits to distribute copies of the book, to communities here in Africa or they can send a direct donation, I’ll do it on their behalf. So thank you everyone for supporting me and thank you Dr Cates for this opportunity. And I’ll see you in Kenya at a mobile clinic, hopefully.

Dr. Cates: Thank you. I hope you enjoyed this interview today with Dr Ameet. To learn more about Dr. Ameet, his book and online program, you can go to thespadr.com, go to the podcast page with his interview and you’ll find all the information and links there. And while you’re there, I invite you to join The Spa Dr. Community so you don’t miss any of our upcoming podcasts. And also, if you haven’t already taken the skin quiz, you can go to theskinquiz.com find out what information you’re skin is trying to tell you about your health and what you can do about it. Just go to theskinquiz.com it’s a free online quiz. And also I invite you to join me on social media, on Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, Instagram, and youtube. And join the conversation there and I’ll see you next time on The Spa Dr. Podcast.