Reset Your Hormones Using Essential Oils with Dr. Mariza Snyder

Dr. Cates: Hi there. I’m Dr Trevor cates. Welcome to The Spa Doctor podcast. Today’s podcast is about how to reset your hormones by using essential oils. My guest is Dr Mariza Snyder, who is a functional practitioner and the author of six books, the best selling book, The Smart Mom’s Guide to Essential Oils and The Dash Diet Cookbook, as well as The Low Glycemic Index Slow Cooker, The Antioxidant Counter, or The Water Infusion Detox Book, and the Matcha Miracle. Dr Mariza’s newest book, focuses on balancing hormones with the power of essential oils and is called The Essential Oils Hormone Solution. For the past 10 years. She has lectured, lectured at wellness centers, conferences and corporations on hormone health, essential oils, nutrition and detoxification. Dr Mariza has been featured on Fox News, Mindbodygreen, Dr Oz, the Huffington Post, and in Women’s Health, Shape and Self magazines. She’s also the host of the essentially you podcast designed to empower women to become the CEO of their health. In today’s interview, we cover hormone imbalances that cause us to hold on to stubborn weight, emotional factors that affect hormone levels and weight and specific essential oils that help with hormone balance and how to use them correctly for optimal results. So please enjoy this interview.

Dr. Cates: Mariza it’s so great to have you back on my podcast. Thank you for coming.

Dr. Snyder: Thank you so much for having me, trevor. I love getting to connect with you, girl.

Dr. Cates: I know, I know. So we’re talking about about women’s health, women’s hormones and how it all ties into essential oils too because that’s your big thing, right? Essential oils. You’ve got a book coming out. So tell me what’s new. Give us an update.

Dr. Snyder: Absolutely. So yeah, we are super excited about the book, The Essential Oil Hormone Solution, and it really navigates women through what I consider to be those instant wins. You know, trevor and I, you know, we’ve worked with so many women over the years when they’re navigating the waters of being their hormones back on track, feeling the way that they want to feel. Just some days you just want, you want to win, you know, you want it, you want to feel back the way that you used to feel. And that’s how I love to leverage the power of oil is when we want to feel more energized. We can do that. If we want to feel more, a little less stress, we’re kind of handling our day. We want to make sure that we’re getting deep, restful sleep, want to make sure that we’re navigating through those crazy emotional cravings. Like you have something that you can grab that’s a tool that’s going to get the job done for you or really going to help you get to where you want to go. And that’s for me, I have used them for that, uh, so many years. And I felt like, Gosh, if these became that instant, when those, those tools that I lend to when I’m struggling because it’s always a journey. I really hope that women know and you know, there’s definitely going to be many, many for many years things feel like they’re working great. But then we tend to slip off and it’s nice to have something that you can always lean on to and, and, and utilize for taking care of your bodies, really stress emotions, that type of thing. And you know, when I first got started with the oils for me, I was still dealing with stress issues. I was still, I was still chronically sick, so I had severe crazy cortisol levels. I had fixed them several years back. But then I was, I opened up a new part of my business. I was on the road a lot and I was getting sick a lot again. And I was like, oh gosh darn it. And I knew that had a lot to do with the way that I was living my life. And I knew those things started to shift. But a good friend of mine, a good friend of ours introduced me to an oil blend that was good at boosting the immune system. Recognizing that I needed to make some other changes to boost that immune system. But having an oil that was gonna help me get my immune system back on track. I was really excited about it and I use that oil pretty consistently. Honestly in the beginning I had no idea how to use the oils. I was just, I was using it everywhere I was infusing it. I put on the bottom of my feet. I mean I was, I was probably overusing the oil, but you know, since that I don’t use it like I used it then, but even still after being consistent with that blend, that immune system blend, I did not get sick for three and a half years. It wasn’t until a week and a half before my wedding. And you know how that goes, you plan it for a wedding and you know, all of myself care. Went out the door those couple of weeks and I started getting sick. I had a, I had a big tour that I was playing. I was doing like this big California tour on speaking. I had to cancel that entire thing and just focus on the wedding and focus on getting well. But I got back on that oil and got well and was super. I had super energy for the wedding and it was totally fine, but I just thought to myself like, wow, I love that I have a tool set that I can rely on that can really help to support me knowing that there are other things that I should be doing as well to keep my body on track.

Dr. Cates: Right. Awesome. So I know you have this personal journey then you, you’ve also helped a lot of other people and it’s interesting because I think a lot of times people don’t think about essential oils and hormones and the connection. So anything you want to share about that to help people make that connection?

Dr. Snyder: Absolutely. So the big thing, because I would, I do when I say it, I had my own little podcast episode on this topic, which is, you know, the truth about hormones and essential oils. So I, what I will say, the big disclaimer and that oils aren’t hormones. Oils aren’t estrogen and progesterone and not t3 or t4. They’re not testosterone, right? But what they can do is they can help navigate the conversation. And one of the areas I find that we get in big trouble, you know, a big part of what I’m working on right now is helping women overcome stubborn weight and a lot of that is nutrition, a lot of that movement, but a lot of it’s self care and reducing stress levels. I feel like the big hormone that plays a huge role played a huge role in why I was getting sick, played a huge role in why I’ve ever put on weight. And so many other women that’s going to be cortisol, right? It’s our number one survival hormone. Thank goodness we have a hormone that is the massive orchestrator for keeping us alive. Let’s be honest, you know, for any moment, I call it the stranger danger moments. When we perceive stress, when you perceive a dangerous moment, cortisol comes on in and then we can fight or flight or we could do what we need to do to survive that moment. But when it’s, when it’s overused because of those, what I like to call clutch the pearls moments because girl, we have clutch the pearls moments all the time, every day. Right. Clutch the Pearl. Oh my gosh. I’m late to pick up my kids. Clutch the Pearls. Oh, I’m stuck in traffic. I’m late for a meeting, right. You know, like, or all the things and women. We’re constantly in the state of weight. Not all of us, but a lot of us. We struggle with worry and we struggle with concern. We struggled with urgency and it’s constantly we are clutching pearls and we’re sending a message to our adrenals. It’s Armageddon. We need to get ready to fight or flight and over time that really wears down. We know it. Whereas on estrogen, we know it steals progesterone, we know it, deregulates insulin levels and we know it helps. It just helps to put more weight on in places we don’t want it. So one of my favorite things about oils is really helping to regulate the process involved in that, which is the hypothalamic pituitary axis. And what oils can do is actually literally shift and down regulate that HPA access. So kind of lower it so that it’s not what I call is. We lacked stress, resilience and I wanna I want to increase stress resilience. I want when, when we’re running late for a meeting, we don’t go into a barrage of chemicals … Armageddon, like things are going to fall apart. I want us to be able to manage that with ease and grace. And what we know about oils is that there’s specific chemical constituents like lanolol or monoterpenes like landomine that could actually lower our serum cortisol levels lower the way that we respond to stress like instantaneously. And so that’s probably one of the biggest ways that I’ve learned for oils to really support hormones is getting to that root cause situation where we can begin to navigate those stressful moments where we’re not triggered constantly and into releasing a lot of cortisol into the system. So that it is, it is even, it’s playing the way it’s supposed to play in the body so that we’re not helping to deregulate all those other hormones as well. That’s one of the big ways I’ve learned for oils to really support us, is helping to manage that stress.

Dr. Cates: Well, what are the things I love? And thank you for sharing all that. And what are the things I love about using essential oils is, is taking control back of our health that sometimes we feel like with our hormones, with women’s hormones going ups and downs, and a lot of times we feel like out of control of, of not being in charge of all this. And, and I think conventional medicine sometimes the approach can make that even worse by saying, Oh, you just need to go, you need to be on this and a depressant or you need to be on these hormones are you need, you just need to take this pill and a and this is gonna fix it. And if it’s not, then you need to go see a therapist. And really there’s, it’s sometimes those things can be important, right? Sometimes medication, certainly therapy, can play a role, but there’s a lot that we can do on a daily basis to keep things, keep, keep, keep ourselves healthy and, and have control over that.

Dr. Snyder: Absolutely. I think it’s a lot of what you teach Dr Trevor Cates and it. It’s really helping giving women the tools to get into to really make those decisions. Of. My. One of my big missions is to help women become the CEO of their own healthcare, because I remember growing up, a big part of my story is I had chronic migraines for 15 years and I was told by a doctor many doctors that I was just going to have to live with this chronic pain and and for 15 years I really believed that and I had view where the meet me at anytime during those years, especially when I was a teenager in my early twenties. I in my little purse or my backpack, I had drugs in those in my purse and I was always under the impression that as long as I could catch my migraine or I could beat it with pills that I could. I could manage life. That that was my normal and it was when I was 24 and realized that there was another way to do it. That there was a natural way to get my body back on track. I was, my whole paradigm got blown up. I was like, oh my gosh, it’s so much more control. And that’s what I love. I think, you know, we’re not just talking about hormones when it comes with oils, but for me it’s about green cleaning and it’s about creating nontoxic solutions. Emergencies. You know, I had Alex and I were in Italy a couple of years ago and I wasn’t looking. Allies wasn’t looking at any. Slammed right into a pole when he was in his phone. Glasses went flying off his face and it hit right here. The little goose egg is just growing, like, as you know, we’ve all been there where kids have fallen down in the booth gate road. And the first thing Alex said, do you have lavender and girl? You know, I’m carrying oil, a carrier oil with everywhere I go, pull out the lavender. We put it on his goose egg and it begins to shrink as quickly as it grown. And so it was just so grateful to have something like that. Would we have needed medical intervention? Not necessarily, you know, but in those moments it’s just really great when we have the solution. In my house, that’s the first thing we grab. We grab oils first, you know, like my immune system issue. I was getting sick five to seven times a year. I had oil that could support my immune system. Clearly there were other things I was doing to do that too, like lowering stress levels, but it played a major role. So now we feel really equipped for any type of cold and flu situation. We feel good about keeping our houses clear of any type of environmental threats. But I find for women, a lot of us are looking for something with instant energy so that we’re not grabbing that extra coffee or that candy bar at 3:00 in the afternoon. I love lemon, grapefruit, orange peppermint for those moments or for us, it’s a lot of worry and a lot of mental chatter at night. It’s great to have oils that will just shut that down. So lavender, Bergamot, clary sage, cedarwood, beterberg, these are all sleep oils and when we get used to using things like that every day. So I’m a little diffusers right here. I mean use this every night. We use it, we use it everyday to but we use every night. This is, this happens to be in my bedroom and that we run, we run those oil. Usually I pick like lavender and cedarwood or Lavender and clary sage. I like to mix it up because I think that something about the ritual of mixing it up is a lot of fun too. But we get the oil going and because we’ve been doing it for so many years, it is. It’s like the oil, all of those chemical constituents go into the limbic brain and tell the brain it is bedtime, the oils are going, it’s time to bed and so I knock out within 10 minutes I can hopefully get through three pages of a book because it’s a done deal and I’ve seen that work for so many women over the years. You know, having these as a way to create rituals, create habits. Not that the chemical constituents themselves don’t have benefits because they do, but when you pair it with lifestyle, that’s the recipe for success.

Dr. Cates: Right, and I love that too. And you know my, my skincare products The Spa Dr. Skin care products, several steps contain essential oils and so one of the things I love and we put it in there because we don’t want to use synthetic fragrance, we wanted to use essential oils, but when people use it, it helps them. They’re just like, oh my gosh, I am happier. It lifts my mood out because of something essential oils in there that you’re talking about and the, and the benefits of that. So you’re not just avoiding the harmful ingredients of synthetic fragrance. You’re also getting all these great benefits of essential oils provide. So I absolutely love that. And so let’s talk. Let’s talk a bit about. I want to talk about how to use essential oils and which are some of you mentioned you rattle off a bunch of them, but for people that are new to essential oils saying, okay, what are the ones I really need to have? And how do I use them?

Dr. Snyder: Absolutely want to do a really great job in the book to the new book to really give a plant primer because I know a lot of women are going to be buying this book, not because they’re essential oil, advanced experts, they’re going to be buying it because they want their hormones back on track, right? They want to solve the problem, they want the transformation. So I was like, well, we at least need to give them a 101 in the book to give it, to break it down. Well the cool thing is, and I’m not gonna lie, I’m sitting around like 100 oils right now, like I’ve got my oil box right there and there. And despite the fact that there are so many oils in that box, girl, there’s only really two to three ways to use these oils. And I showed you one of them. So I would say the easiest way to use essential oil is to simply defuse them. And you know, really what it is like this particular diffuser, it runs for two, five and 10 hours, which I love it. It’s like set it and forget it. It’s like the slow cooker of essential oil diffuser and the cool thing is that alternate the turns on and off and it has pretty colors and anyway it’s in. It’s super cute. We travel with that one all the time, but it’s usually five to six drops of oil and you and so it depends on what I’m looking for. Energizer oils are citruses and mints and some herbs. Happy oils are oftentimes citruses, calming oils are florals and also herbs as well, but a lot of. So you think about the world that we mentioned, we talked about, we talked about lavender and we talked about clary calm and rolling chamomile and other floral jasmine and rose. Those are all very calming and relaxing and so, oh, those are just some key elements and I talk a lot about them. That book as well, but the new thing, if you could just run the diffuser, let it go in the environment. So many benefits. One, it helps to support your immune system to it supports, the respiratory system, but one of my favorite things about oil, and I think women can really appreciate this is you can choose your mood. I love the truth, my mood, and so I’ll, I’m feeling a certain kind of way and I want to shift that I grabbed and oil, so one of my favorite oils is wild orange, sweet orange, wild orange. We want to call it and it is known as the oil of abundance and I tell you what I have been. I can be snippy, snappy as my best friend said, and I’ll tell you I’ve tried. I’ve used that oil in all kinds of circumstances. They have a right here and I always dare people and like I dare you to stay mad or super frustrated after you smell this oil. I dare you because it changes the way our neurology is functioning. It changes the way we’re managing moods in the brain. So I always say choose your mood and you know, who knows what kind of mood you want to have. So seeing what the diffusers you want. Let’s say you want, you want a mood of productivity and motivation. You know wild orange is definitely one of those bad boys. Peppermint is a great one too because that Combo with my instant energy combo, but then rosemary, is great for memory and focus and concentration, so my combo would be a little bit like one or two drops of Rosemary, couple jobs, a wild orange, couple drops of peppermint and Bam. You’ve got focus, energy, productivity and motivation all in one, like super easy, so just using. That’s the best way to start. Now, the next way I love is topical and that this is my super woman roller blend. I’m going to share the recipe and it’s in a pretty little bottle. All superwoman blends deserve to be in a pretty bottle and this oil is not only designed for helping to manage mood, so if you’re feeling irritable, you’re feeling like you’re dealing with mood swings, hormonal mood swings, you’re feeling stressed, or even if you’ve got pms symptoms, that’s what this does. This was this one was designed to do it. Smells like pure heaven. It acts as a perfume if you want, and it’s my ultimate hormone oil, and I have thousands and thousands of women making this blend all over the world and they love it. And basically how I love to recommend women use it as you can on pulse points on the wrist, right here on the neck that we got a pulse point, but then how I really love to use it, it’s on the palms because aromatic is so powerful too. So the Combo of using it topically and aromatically people breathe it in, stand up, which I’m not going to do because I’m in tight quarters stand up and that I love for women to get in there. Super woman pose. So hands on the hips, just rock that energy. Take that moment to stand up, maybe play your favorite song that you love right now, and just get into that energy that you deserve to rock. And so that’s topical, right? And clearly topical can be for an area of concern if you’ve got a tummy ache, oils over your stomach. If you’ve got neck tension or headache oils there as well. So if you’re trying to solve a very specific problem, you can target that area. But for like a blend like this, it really is about just overall systemic and you’re really enjoying the moment.

Dr. Cates: Okay. So diffuser and then direct. Those are the two main ways.

Dr. Snyder: Yeah. So aromatic and internal or sorry, aromatic and topical. You can breathe this directly right up to your nose or you can put a drop on your palms. It’s really up to you. It’s that simple. But you know, I’m a big fan of rollers. I love rollers because they’re so, so easy to use. And you can pack a ton of rollers everywhere you go. So I have, I’ll be honest with you, I got a lot of mood and roller blends, you know, because again, I like to choose my mood and I like to choose the way I want to feel. So I’ve got all kinds of rollers in my, in my, in my disposal. So it’s just, I think for women, the easiest way or people in general is this way. It’s going to be using it infuser or just taking a drop on your palm, breathing it in or applying it with a, with a roller. Because with the roller you can predict it so that you’re treating it very safely. Right? I usually recommend anywhere between 10 and 20 percent dilution specifically for a very targeted problem. you’re pretty safe there. And Yeah. So this, this dilution is a 20 percent dilution in this.

Dr. Cates: Okay. So tell me, tell me the one that you were holding up that roller. Tell everybody what’s, what’s in there

Dr. Snyder: I’ll tell you what it is. So it is a couple of ingredients. So here we go guys. So it is the queen of hormones is going to be clary sage. So 12 drops of Clary Sage, Clary Sage is amazing. Next is 10 drops of lavender, then it’s followed up by five drops of Geranium. Geranium is so lovely. It’s lovely for skin. It’s lovely for, for emotional support is lovely for all things women as well. So five drops of CedarWood and then four drops of ylang ylang. Ylang ylang oil Is a hard driven oil. It’s also libido booster. Love that oil. So much and so that’s the blend, put it all in, it doesn’t matter what order it is and then you’re going to top it off with any carrier oil, grapeseed oil, almond seed oil, fractionated coconut oil, and then you just mix it up and roll it on and that’s how you use that blend.

Dr. Cates: That’s great. Thank you. Thanks for sharing that. That’s fantastic. Is that the one that you sent me? I know you sent me one.

Dr. Snyder: Yeah, that’s exactly the one I sent you. Oh, I love it. I love it.

Dr. Cates: And my daughter loves it too. My 17 year olds, but I’m using it too. I also like to use like put a few drops a bath, like I’m a big fan of epsom salt baths and doing those before bed time and stuff. And so I like to put in a few drops of essential oils.

Dr. Snyder: Which ones do you like? Girl, I got a bath blend, you know, I do. But which one’s which oil you love in your bath?

Dr. Cates: Well, I mean lavender. Certainly a Go to. And I love ylang ylang oil. I think it’s, I love the smell of that bergomat, and those are some of my favorites. I’m not a big patchouli fan, it just doesn’t.

Dr. Snyder: I don’t own patchouli either actually, it’s so funny. I, you know, I don’t normally confess that, but patchouli has been studied significantly for lowering cortisol levels and stress levels and so it’s a, it’s a power player, like patchouli, rose and lavender. That’s a power combo. It’s just not a combo that I can get down with. There’s a lot of other oils that lower cortisol levels, but patchouli that it is a favorite for a lot of people more so than I ever thought. People like it. I’m just like, no, thank you. I’m good. There are so many oils to choose from. Jasmine and rose oil and and so many other beautiful oil and my favorite battle. I do love a little frankincense and lavender as well. I love Clary Sage, I love that in my bath because usually you’re taking a bath to relax. Right. And so those are my favorite relaxation oils right there.

Dr. Cates: Now you can also do essential oils internally and there’s definitely more concerns around that. You definitely want to be careful and, and purity is always a concern with essential oils because just because something says it’s an essential oil does not mean that it’s a clean essential oils. So I think that’s important to talk about because that is when you’re talking about concentrating a plant, if it’s sprayed with pesticides, you’re just concentrating those pesticides. So I think really important and particularly when you’re talking about taking internally, right?

Dr. Snyder: Absolutely. So yeah, so the, it’s like so many markets here in the country and in the world. We don’t have a really big regulation for essential oils and a lot of people are using them. Millions and millions of people are using them so often. Not only are they potentially getting oils that are plants from all of these oils are coming from plants and so how you take care of the plant is going to be what you get with that oil and you can tell there is a major difference between high quality oils and really poor quality oils, but also a lot of companies adulterated oils, you know, instead of rose, people do geraniums it’s never rose at all. Instead of lavender is lavadin and then most of the time frankincense isn’t even frankincense because it’s such a, it’s such a rare oil. It’s very costly, it’s very hard to produce. So often when you see like a $10 Frankincense, it’s just, it’s impossible for the amount of labor that goes into that oil for it to be $10 and to be real. Right? So I think it’s important, you know, I go through this in my book as well because I want people to know that it’s. I know people are finding oils from all different places. I know probably when you were choosing oils for your, for the, for your amazing product line, which I love by the way, then you had to, you have to be really mindful about where you were getting them, you know, making sure that the company, where are they sourcing these oils, how are they testing them? Are they even testing them, you know, do they, do they supply that is a third party testers? So those companies that are of high integrity will disclose that information. They will let you have that info because they have nothing to hide. If you’re going to spend that kind of money create, you know, making sure your oil is pure. You definitely want people to know it sounds like organic produce, If I was doing organic. I want you to know that I’m spending the money for that. So, I think this, do your due diligence. I wouldn’t just buy anything off the shelf, I would just google it. Thank goodness we got Google, right? You can easily Google that company and just look, you know, do they talk about how they even test their oils, do they mention anything about it? And and even the label is a good. I’m a tall tale sign of, you know, do they give you an expiration date? Do they tell you how to use that oil. So often oils will say do not consume and do not apply topically and that is a major red flag. If that oil can be used topically, don’t breathe it in, you know, because that’s not a good thing. So we were talking about internal, I do recommend it, but in very targeted scenarios like if you want to add oils, if it’s a good quality to your pasta or to your smoothie or to your frosting, I mean they are flavor boosters. We were just cooking with ginger and tumeric yesterday and I make Tumeric, Chai teas with the tumor oil and, but I know that it’s internally safe and I know that I’m using very little. And then we like to swirl peppermint and cinnamon in our organic hot chocolate. Totally safe. It’s a flavor booster, right? It’s just when we’re gobbling up a lot of oil for no reason. That’s where I get my, I get to be mindful because you know, it, it can irritate the digestive system, it may be messing with our microbiome. So again, you want to make sure that you’re working with a practitioner that’s a very targeted reason why you’re using oils internally. Just being really mindful about why you’re doing it, I just wouldn’t do it willy nilly.

Dr. Cates: Right. Absolutely. And, I think that’s all good points that I think, I just, I really do think that it’s, I’m using essential oils can be such a great part of healthy lifestyle and of course just essential oils alone are not enough to treat all of our health problems. Right. So I’m not gonna claim just throw out all your other stuff and just use essential oils, right? But I think it’s under utilized by people, even people that use natural medicine. I think I feel like a lot of times people forget about the power of essential oils and how they can compliment so much of what we’re doing with naturopathic medicine, functional medicine and that people can use these at home in between their appointments for their functional medicine nutrition, other doctors to help support their overall health. And, and we’ve talked about health benefits of the mood benefits and, and they can also be used in personal care products like I mentioned as well as well,

Dr. Snyder: Yeah, we made over our entire cleaning cabinet probably, you know, for me when we ran the hormone tests and I was showing up a lot of estrogen dominance, we are seeing a lot of things whacked out. I took a look at the landscape of our house and I was like oh my goodness, we are living in a toxic mess. And that was the big impetus for me with the oils. It was like how can I use these in recipes to have the same benefits of cleaning properties into use them to make body butters and just have a lot of fun with those. And so we did. We made over the entire home use a lot of oils to do it, you know, I have, I have hair tonics with oils in it, you know, we just play a lot with them and have a lot of fun with it. But also, I mean, again, I think such a big part for me is the emotional wellbeing is the stress, wellbeing is the sleep, I think where they come in handy is that they really punctuate the rituals that each and every one of us want to have, should have to live that healthy lifestyle. Sometimes we just need a little bit of help, to eat the right foods, to get the best sleep, to lower the stress levels, to get our booties outside and work out. Right. Just that little boost and a little bit of peppermint will go a long way for that workout, you know, pre and post muscle soreness. And I think that’s really how we use them as how can we make life a little bit easier living this lifestyle. Because, you know, I look back 10 years ago and I wasn’t as healthy as I am today because it all, it is a process. It’s a journey and I’m always looking for ways not to shortcut health because you can’t do that. But looking for ways to make it a little bit more, a little bit, a little bit easier just to kind of segue that. And so for us, oils are built into almost everything they’re built into the fabric of our life and they’re just one more tool on top of the green smoothies on top of the organic beautiful skincare that we use, your skincare, they’re built into the other sleep, the other sleep protocols and sleep rituals that we do that just built into the fabric of our life and they just make it easier.

Dr. Snyder: Great. All right, well Mariza tell everybody where they can find you. Find your new book. Yeah. So the new book is going to be everywhere where books are sold. Here is what it looks like in case you were wondering Essential Oils Hormone Solution. Also, I have a podcast called The Essentially Podcast where I get to interview brilliant gorgeous women like Dr Trevor Cates. So we’re checking that out. And then my website is just DrMariza.com

Dr. Cates: Great. And we’ll have a link set up for those below your interview as well. And you know, it’s funny, you’re holding it up, it made it look really big. It’s really not that big. It’s just Mariza is small.

Dr. Snyder: No, it is. It’s huge. It’s 400 pages. So the bibliography alone, it’s 40 plus pages. We have hundreds of research articles in this book. Girl it was actually 450 pages and we had a day we went in and sliced and diced the heck out of it. So yeah, it got. It got cut down a lot. I went overboard on the book.

Dr. Cates: They you have it. You’ve got a lot a lot in that book. Okay. Well Mariza, you’re such a great example of what’s possible with you know, your health and your vitality and your and your bubbliness and all of that. So thanks for coming on and sharing with us about essential oils and hormones. And Best of luck with your book.

Dr. Snyder: Thanks so much. Such a pleasure to come on.

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